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Title: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 07:17 BST (UK)
Can anyone provide anymore information? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Believe the O'hare lived Main street, Longriggend at some time.

John Docherty+ Mary McKillop
Parents of: John Docherty
??? More siblings???

John Docherty + Margret McCann
Parents of:
Rose Ann Docherty
??? More siblings???

Andrew O'hare + Rose Ann Docherty
Parents of:
Rose Ann Docherty O'hare
(b:1924 ? d: 1965)
John O'hare
Margaret O'hare (Married Hugh Bruce)
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 03 September 17 08:20 BST (UK)
For those, like me, who are thinking "where?" - Longriggend is in Lanarkshire, Scotland ;)

Some more dates might prove useful.
Scottish records are mainly at ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk - a Pay-per-View site.
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 08:43 BST (UK)
According to anc tree - John Docherty and Mary Killop had a son John Docherty born 22 Jan 1859 - 6 Craig St., Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John married Margaret (Maggie) McCann - 14 Feb 1882 - Langriggend, Landward of New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Margaret "Maggie" McCann(1863–1915) - 6 Feb 1915 - Nimmons Row, Langriggend, New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 08:46 BST (UK)
Possible for John and Maragaret in 1891 - No 17 Arden Row New Monkland Airdrie.

John Docherty   30 Coal Miner
Margaret Docherty 28
John Docherty   8 Francis Docherty 6
Dunan Docherty   2 Roseann Docherty 9 Months.

Sandra

Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 08:50 BST (UK)
Nimmos Rows New Monkland Lanarkshire 1901  (Nimmos Row - same as the O'Hare family)

John Docherty   41 Coal-Miner
Maggie Docherty 37
Duncan Docherty 12
Rose Ann Docherty 10
Ronald Docherty 8
Thomas Docherty 6
Frank Docherty   16


Son of John Docherty and Margaret MCCann - Francis/Frank Docherty - 1884–1930 (Added Ancestry tree shows photographs of this couple)

born 25 September 1884 - Arden, by Airdrie, Lanarkshire passed away 10 June 1930 - 362E Muiryhall Street, Coatbridge.

Marriage 26 February 1906 - St Mary's R.C. Church, Longriggend to Catherine Kennedy born 1882.

Couple had at least 4 children

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 08:55 BST (UK)
Ronald Docherty born 1893 appears in another tree with photographs - married 1920  Whiterigg, Roxburghshire, Scotland to Jane McColm Wood (1902–1962)

Ronald Docherty - 1893–1962

born  1893 -Scotland. Passed away  2/11/1962  - Plains, Airdrie, Scotland.

Couple may have had at least 9 children.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 09:17 BST (UK)
John Docherty - 1805–1879

born about1805 - Legnahoory, Donegal, Ireland passed away 6 December 1879 - New Monkland Landward, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Scotland Select Marriages - 1 November 1851 -  New Monkland, Lanarkshire,Scotland marriage to Mary McKillop - 1822 - 1907

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT14-XZT

couple had at least 8 children.

Sandra

Old Parish Register - Mary McKillop - Airdrie or Monkland 31/10/1851
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 09:23 BST (UK)
Births of Docherty and McKillop children

Agnes Dougharty - 6 November 1856   -  John Dougherty 22 January 1859 -  Duncan Dougharty 18 January 1862   -  Ronald Dougherty 14 February 1864 - all New Monkland Lanark Scotland.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01knt/

Sandra

Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 09:29 BST (UK)
Possible - 1871 - 64 Bell Street New Monkland Lanarkshire

John Docharty   60
Mary Docharty   50
Mary Ann Docharty 20
Agnes Docharty   14
John Docharty   12
Duncan Docharty 10
Randel Docharty 8
Patrick Mcconnell 28 Step-son born 1843.

1881 After the death of John - Avonhead Rows New Monklands Lanarkshire

Mary Mc K Docherty   59
Patrick Docherty   38
James McFadyen   33
John Docherty   21
Ronald Docherty 17
Catherine Connal 8 GrandDaughter.

Patrick and James show in 1861 with Duncan McKillop - transcribed as Denis  ::)

36 Bell Street New Monkland 1861

Denis Mckillop   30
Patrick McConnell   18
James Mcfadyen   14



Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 09:31 BST (UK)
Posible Death Of John Docherty

DOCHERTY JOHN - 67 years -  1879 - 651/2 250 - New Monkland Landward
(Asthmatic Bronchitis 6 Months)

Possible Death of Mary Docherty

DOCHERTY MARY - 82 years -  1907 - 651/ 79 - Airdrie or New Monkland

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 09:58 BST (UK)
 ;D thank you so much Sandra for all your help have been extremely helpful. Are you also a Docherty? Saw the name Frank Docherty on one message you sent do you know who that might be  ??
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 10:03 BST (UK)
;D thank you so much Sandra for all your help have been extremely helpful. Are you also a Docherty? Saw the name Frank Docherty on one message you sent do you know who that might be  ??

Sorry no connection to Docherty - just a willing helper.

Francis/Frank Docherty - 1884–1930 - Son of John Docherty and Margaret MCCann -

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 10:09 BST (UK)
Parents John Docherty and Mary McKillop - Ronald Dougherty 14 February 1864 - all New Monkland Lanark Scotland. Passed away 1931

Brother of John Docherty - Ronald Docherty  - 67 years -  1931 - 651/ 68 - Airdrie or New Monkland

Ronald married Helen Murray - 16 July 1890 - Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 10:14 BST (UK)
Ronald - Woodside CottageNew Monkland Lanarkshire 1901

Ronald Docherty 36 Coal Miner Hewer.
Ellen Docherty   34
Ellen Docherty   9 Parried  (must be Patrick) Docherty 6
Mary Docherty   4 Agnes Docherty   1

There was a son Ronald Docherty born 9 May 1898 passed away 14 April 1899

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 10:20 BST (UK)
Do you know anything more about Rose  Ann Docherty  or Margret McCann and her parents ??
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 12:05 BST (UK)
Margaret McCann daughter of Francis "Frank" McCann and Rose Ann "Rody" Maxwell -

Francis "Frank" McCann - 1829–1877

born about  1829-1833 • Ireland - passed away 7 DEC 1877 - Arden, Landward of New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Married 8 Nov 1859 - Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland  - (Scotland select Marriages) Rose Ann Maxwell.

MCCANN FRANCIS - MAXWELL ROSE - 1859 - 651/1 98 - 98
Airdrie or New Monkland.

MCCANN FRANK -  48 years - 1877 - 651/2 330 New Monkland Landward

MCCANN ROSE ANN - 77 years -  1922 - 651/ 83 - Airdrie or New Monkland

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 12:07 BST (UK)
After the death of husband Francis/Frank - 1881 258 High St Glasgow Inner High Lanarkshire

Ros Ann McCann 37 Tailoress.
Patrick McCann   15
Ros Ann McCann 12
William McCann   5

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 12:10 BST (UK)
1871 - Arden New Monkland Lanarkshire

Frances Mccann   38 Miner. Born Ireland.
Rody Mccann   31 Born Ireland.
Thomas Mccann   10
Margaret Mccann 8
Patrick Mccann   6
Maryan Mccann   1
Roy Manwell   75 Born Ireland. Visitor.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 12:19 BST (UK)
1861 2 Buttrey Sqr New Monkland Lanarkshire

Rosa Maxwell   74
Rosa Maxwell   20
Francis Mcan   26
Thomas Mcan   18
John Mcan   4 Months.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 12:27 BST (UK)
Spare 6 credits to look at the marriage of  Francis McCann and Rosa Maxwell on Scotlands people.
Father of Frank - Lawrence McCann and Margaret Earle
Mother of Rose Maxwell was Rose Maxwell

Sandra



Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 12:50 BST (UK)
Thank you are amazing!! Have given me so much help 
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 13:00 BST (UK)
1861 2 Buttrey Sqr New Monkland Lanarkshire

Rosa Maxwell   74
Rosa Maxwell   20
Francis Mcan   26
Thomas Mcan   18
John Mcan   4 Months.

Sandra

Son of Frank and Rosa/Rose McCann - Thomas Joseph McCann born Scotland - aged about 60 years - Father Frank and Mother Rosa Maxwell - passed away 29 February 1928 - Widowed. Informant Robert McCann - Burial Holy Cross cemetery.

Marriage 31 Dec 1880 - Airdrie, Lanarkshire, Scotland to Mary Deans Mcdermid Mason (1864 - 1920)

MCCANN THOMAS - MASON MARY - 1881 - 651/1 17 - 17 - Airdrie or New Monkland.

Philadelphia Ward 15, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1900

Thomas Mc Cann born 1861    Mary Mc Cann   born 1864 - married 16 years - Imm 1888
Frank Mccann born Dec 1881
Belle Mccann born April 1884
Mary Mccann born 1887
Dennis Mccann   1893
Thomas Mccann   1895
Robert Mccann 1898

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 03 September 17 13:00 BST (UK)
Your very welcome. Pleased to help.

Sandra
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 13:17 BST (UK)
Do you have any idea about the Docherty family link to O'Hare family?? I believe that  Andrew O'hare (Coal miner, born 1893??) married Rose Ann Docherty ??
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: mosstrooper on Monday 16 October 17 00:15 BST (UK)
Hello all.
I lived in Plains Lanarkshire and attended Whiterigg School. The places mentioned, Longriggend, Arden, Whiterigg etc were all nearby, the Docherty family lived 2 doors from me and as far as I know they still live in Plains, the family names all the same as you seek handed down in the Scottish tradition, John, Ronnie etc. as do the Mccann  family. I have a book called "The lost Villages" obtained from Airdrie Library which lists all these villages and the families who lived in them.
Any family burials would likely be in St Joseph's Airdrie and they have a presence on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/StJosephsCemeteryAirdrie/?fref=nf
The site operator will carry out searches, the notice says replies within minutes, but I imagine that would depend on the time of day.

James.
Have old photos.
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Monday 16 October 17 00:56 BST (UK)
Wow cool thanks for info. I'd love to see any photos of the Docherty family if have any
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: mosstrooper on Tuesday 17 October 17 15:56 BST (UK)
Hello again Hydes,
First let me draw things together a bit, having read all the replies in your 2 threads (now merged I think) I can see you are being sent hither & thither to areas not of interest. The posts by *Sandra* are the closest to your search, if not spot on. The families O'Hare, McCann, Docherty all lived within a few miles of each other in the villages of Arden, Whiterigg, Plains, Greengairs and Longriggend, moving about from one village to another as the Coal Seam ran out, their descendants all still live in the same places, the Ronnie Docherty Sandra mentions having died in 1962, lived 2 doors from me in Livingston Drive Plains and he did indeed have 9 children. Ann McCann was 2 classes above me in school, her brother Eddie (Tinny) McCann married into my family, my brother Pat Kerr married Elizabeth O'Hare from West Calder who may or may not be in the mix, West Calder being another Mining area in West Lothian.
I am looking into this family from Greengairs, Lawrence O'Hare who was a School Teacher and Author died 2012 and buried also in St Josephs cemetery, he wrote a book about the Stanrigg Mine Disaster and was instrumental in getting a Memorial erected, look it up, the Mine stood a matter of yards from the village of Arden. This family may be connected.

James Kerr.
 
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Wednesday 18 October 17 01:03 BST (UK)
Hi mosstrooper,
Wow so its possible our families are linked. Will look into what you mentioned above I have only just started researching the families so don't have a lot of info. Would love to find a copy of the two books mentioned any idea where I'd find a copy?
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: mosstrooper on Wednesday 18 October 17 23:09 BST (UK)
Hi,
The two books I mentioned were published by Airdrie Public Library in limited numbers, they sell out
very quickly and have been reprinted, it was on sale at Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanrigg-Pit-Disaster-Lawrence-OHare/dp/0946120110.

Extract showing the Villages, from left to right of the picture is less than 6 miles.

I intend visiting the O'Hare family on your behalf, but first I will send you a personal message so I can tell them who I am representing and why.
James.
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: Hydes on Tuesday 05 April 22 17:19 BST (UK)
Mosstrooper,
Not sure if yo still on here...just started researching again after having awhile off, was wondering if you ended up finding out about Lawrence O'Hare you mentioned in this
 post awhile ago?
Title: Re: DOCHERTY/O'HARE family Longriggend area
Post by: mosstrooper on Tuesday 05 April 22 19:23 BST (UK)
Hello Hydes,
Still here I never went any further after our last contact but things have moved on since that time, Plains Village has its own presence on Facebook you will find it here,

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1712292058989248

The descendants of all the families you are interested in are all on this page and people know them, just go there and ask questions about the people you want to hear about..

James Kerr.