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Looking for details of Alice Enid Riches, especially marriage in Mexico to Francis Paull Robathan
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Is this person still alive? If deceased - please give details of her birthyear
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There is a tree on Ancestry showing her full names as Alice Enid Grace Riches birthyear as 1881 Glamorgan and death 1943. Marriage shown as between 1911-1915
A son Francis E was born 1913 in Cardiff died 1958 Somerset
Alice died in Glamorgan in 1943 and Francis died Glamorgan 1962
Have you looked for them on the 1939 register
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Alice Enid Riches married my grandfather Francis Paull Robathan, I think in Mexico where he was a gold miner. His family were from Risca in Monmouthshire.
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There is a tree on Ancestry containing details of her parents etc
You can also find her on the 1891/1901 censuses
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01egx/
Her birth is on freebmd
Births September qtr 1881
Alice Enid G Riches Cardiff 11a 229
I have asked the moderator to move your post to the Glamorgan board as there does not seem to be a connection to Monmouth
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thanks, but...
Risca (Welsh: Rhisga) is a town of approximately 11,500 people in south-east Wales, within the Caerphilly County Borough and the historic boundaries of Monmouthshire.
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Looking for details of Alice Enid Riches, especially marriage in Mexico to Francis Paull Robathan
The information in your opening post gave nothing to identify her birthyear or birthplace or any information about Francis apart from his name.
Alice was born in Glamorgan and died in Glamorgan. Francis also died in Glamorgan. Alice gave birth in Glamorgan and her son died in Glamorgan
There is nothing to connect Alice with Risca and your post specifically asks for information about Alice
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Alice Enid Riches married my grandfather Francis Paull Robathan, I think in Mexico where he was a gold miner.
GRO consular marriages index confirms marriage of Francis P Robathan to 'Riches' was in Mexico
Consular Marriages 1911-1915 - Volume 13 Page 1082
You should be able to purchase this certificate from the GRO at Southport
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#FamilyHistory
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Alice Enid Grace Riches was baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Cardiff, Glamorganshire 20 June 1881
Her parents were Carlton Hugh & Alice Mary - abode 24 Dumfries Place -fathers occupation Dentist
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Looking for details of Alice Enid Riches, especially marriage in Mexico to Francis Paull Robathan
What other information are you looking for :-\
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Birth for Francis?
December qtr 1881
Brighton Registration District vol 2b, page 258
Robatham, Francis Paull
On the 1891 census, the family seem to be at Machen, rather than Risca?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:427R-XN2
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Birth for Francis?
On the 1891 census, the family seem to be at Machen, rather than Risca?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:427R-XN2
Georges place of birth is Risca ;)
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Family search has this from New York passenger crew lists .
Francisco P Robathan 5 Dev 1913 last residence Salatillo, Mexico. Age 32 years. Departure point
Vera Cruz. Arrival New York Esperanza. Nationality British. Possibly on way back to UK.
Also Alice Riches arrived 1905 from London. She appears to be without family members.
Might be more info Ellis Island web site.
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Thanks for all the info - I have accessed Ellis Island before and the only record is the one you found.
As to what other information I am looking for - I have a lot of data about the Robathan family, but want to expand the tree outwards so looking for links at great grandfather level - hence the 3 separate queries.
Keen to understand the Jamaica connection for Frances Elizabeth Muirhead Robathan's god mother. If she was born in Jamaica was she the offspring of plantation owner or slave?
Alice Enid Grace Riches travelled to Mexico to marry my grandfather Francis - recently found some photographs including the first one I have of her - she was a singer with Ivor Novello apparently but I have not so far found any info on this online.
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Might be more info Ellis Island web site.
Alice Riches
Single
Female
Age at arrival 23y
English
Passenger ID 102466040272
Date of Arrival October 20th, 1905
Ship Amerika
Port of Departure Cuxhaven
Last Place of residence London
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Interesting family 8)
Frances may have believed he was was born in Risca but agree with K Gerrard birth registered 1881
in Brighton mothers maiden name Paull with brother Harold Berkley Robathan reg 1883 Newport which covered Risca and Machen also mothers maiden name Paull.
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Alice Enid Grace Riches was baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Cardiff, Glamorganshire 20 June 1881
Her parents were Carlton Hugh & Alice Mary - abode 24 Dumfries Place -fathers occupation Dentist
Carlton Riches
1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51W-VTS
1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-9YTT
1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X91T-JD5
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Keen to understand the Jamaica connection for Frances Elizabeth Muirhead Robathan's god mother. If she was born in Jamaica was she the offspring of plantation owner or slave?
Replied on your other post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778313.