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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: Flouncylicious on Thursday 07 September 17 12:41 BST (UK)
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I would really appreciate some advice/assistance. I have a marriage certificate for my grt grandfather Thomas Frederick Thompson marrying Laura Harrison Cunnington, on July 28th 1889 in Haggerston/Shoreditch. He is listed as being 24 and his father is John, a labourer. From this I have found census entries for him in Hackney 1891 (RG12; Piece: 194; Folio: 124; Page: 29), 1901 (RG13; Piece: 224; Folio: 153; Page: 38) and 1911(RG14; Piece: 1136) in which he states he was born in Stratford in 1865.
However, I cannot see a birth record that stands out to me as being him. I have a census entry for West Ham from 1871 that appears to be his family, but because Thompson is such a common name I would like to be more certain.
Thanks in advance.
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Could you please post details from the 1871 that you are considering
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RG10; Piece: 1623; Folio: 172; Page: 27
Stratford - West Ham
John Thompson 48
Sophia Thompson 43
George Thompson 21
Richard Thompson 9
William Thompson 7
Thomas Thompson 5
James Thompson 2
Henry Thompson 6m
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Hi the Henry Thompson b Dec qtr 1870 West Ham has mmn Foster
Keyboard86
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Thank you for posting the census details
There is also a birth reg that would fit James with mmn Foster in W Ham. It looks like a second marriage for John & possibly Sophia :-\
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1861
RG09 / 1057 f78 p20
Sophia Forster with John B Thomson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M712-LMM
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That does look like the same family. I can't find a marriage for them, I've also tried Thomas under the name of Foster, Forster and Thomson. If they are his family I think both parents died somewhere between the 1871 and 1881 census, as Henry b.1871 appears to be in the workhouse, James has a live in job and I cannot find the others.
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Sophia appears to have had 2 attempts at producing a Henry ::)
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Maybe
June 1864 Mile End 1c 942
Foster, Sophia
Thomson, John
at St Philip, Stepney. John Thornson on ancestry
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Picking up on the son George R Thomson, 10 b Newington per 1861:
St John the Evangelist, Lambeth
George Richard Thomson born 13 Jan 1850, baptised 24 Feb 1850.
Parents: John Bailey Thomson (sealing wax maker) and Sophia, of Cole St, Borough.
Birth reg: George Richard Thomson mmn Sharp, Mar qtr 1850 St Mary Newington.
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John Bailey Thomson married Sophia Sharp Dec qtr 1846 Lambeth RD 4 / 305
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John Bailey Thomson born 8 Mar 1823, bapt 6 Apr 1828 St George the Martyr, Southwark.
Parents: Richard & Ann.
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The last of the Thomson/Sharp children seems to be Frederick (Mar qtr 1857 West Ham).
Death for Sophia Thomson aged 37, Dec qtr 1859 West Ham.
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Thank you so much for you help everyone! I'm just going through all the information you've given me.
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I am resurrecting this thread as I have finally found the money to research the information properly. I would appreciate some opinions on what I have found as there are lots of anomalies. I still have not found any documentation for a Thomas Frederick Thompson. The family of John Bailey Thomson/Thompson and Sophia nee Foster and their child Thomas William Thomson/Thompson are the only family that have any real potential that I can see.
THOMSON, RICHARD WILLIAM MMN FOSTER GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 20 (I believe this is the ‘Henry’ mentioned on the 1861 census).
THOMSON, WILLIAM ELLIOTT MMN FOSTER GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 33
THOMSON, THOMAS WILLIAM MMN FORSTER GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 16
I recently got access to parish records, and found these from the church of St John Stratford:
Richard William Thompson b. 11th March 1861 bap. 19th Feb 1866. Father John Thompson, Mother Sophia Miller Thompson. Address Mount St Stratford. Occupation Shoemaker.
William Elliott Thompson b. 10th Nov bap. 19th Feb 1866. Father John Thompson, Mother Sophia Miller Thompson. Address Mount St Stratford. Occupation Shoemaker.
Thomas William Thompson b. 18th Jan 1865 bap. 19th Feb 1866. Father John Thompson, Mother Sophia Miller Thompson. Address Mount St Stratford. Occupation Shoemaker.
I have no idea where the Miller has come from, but it is on all 3 entries. Even with the inconsistencies I think these are the same family on the parish records and GRO.
I ordered the birth certificate for Thomas William and it states:
Thomas William Thomson b. 28th January 1865 at 6 Mount St Stratford. Father John Bailey Thomson Occ Journeyman Stationer. Mother Sophia Thomson formerly Foster. Registered 10th March 1865. Miller is not mentioned and the occupation is weird.
I believe I have found Sophia on the 1881 census: Class:RG11; Piece:551; Folio:5; Page:2
as a ‘lady visitor’ (Widow) to the household of a John Terry (Solicitor) in Kennington Park Road Newington. Backing up the theory that John died between the 1871 and 1881 census.
I believe I have found 2 of here children on the 1881: James Class:RG11; Piece:1703; Folio:89; Page:9, High St West Ham. Occ Hairdresser.
Also Henry Class:RG11; Piece:1729; Folio:108; Page:37 West Ham Union School Leyton Low.
I haven’t found Richard, William or Thomas on the 1881. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Is it a stretch too far that my Thomas Frederick is Thomas William?
Thanks for your input.