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Title: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Thursday 07 September 17 14:33 BST (UK)
Hello
Edward McGuinness
1837–1913
Birth 1837 • Cormeen, Meath, Ireland
Death 26 JAN 1913 • Loughan, Moynalty, Kells, Meath, Ireland
Edward married Bridget Bradl(e)y in cormeen 14th July 1867. I have the marriage and all of the children that followed.

I need help looking for Edwards Mcguinness 1837 parents and siblings please can you help?
Thanks
Bernie


Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Thursday 07 September 17 14:52 BST (UK)
He was rather handsome though ;D
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 15:50 BST (UK)
You have his marriage so what was his father's name and his religious donomation?
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Thursday 07 September 17 16:15 BST (UK)
I don't have his fathers name, that's what I asked in my original question. I have his marriage date and his religion is Roman Catholic. I would appreciate the help.
Thanks
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 16:23 BST (UK)
I don't see a Civil cert, I guess from what you saying the church record doesn't have parents. I wonder if RootsIreland has the marriage, they sometimes have more information than the NLI version.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 16:35 BST (UK)
Cormeen appears to be in Moybologue parish and their baptisims only start 1867
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0842
It doesn't look like any earlier records survive.
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0842&parish=Moybologue
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Thursday 07 September 17 18:16 BST (UK)
No wonder  iwas having so much trouble. Thank you so much for all of the searches and information. I dont know where to go from here.
Bernie
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 18:19 BST (UK)
Not sure there is anywhere to go, in which parish did the marriage that place?
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 18:45 BST (UK)
Not sure there is anywhere to go, in which parish did the marriage that place?

Apparently Edward married Bridget Bradl(e)y in cormeen 14th July 1867!!
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 18:52 BST (UK)
Not sure there is anywhere to go, in which parish did the marriage that place?

Apparently Edward married Bridget Bradl(e)y in cormeen 14th July 1867!!

but IF I have the correct register, the marriage isn't there because it starts 1868 for marriages.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 19:17 BST (UK)
Must be a record somewhere as poster has it....
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 September 17 19:25 BST (UK)
That's why I asked :D
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Thursday 07 September 17 22:25 BST (UK)
Here is the certificate unfortunately no info on it.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 22:41 BST (UK)
Apparently Edward married Bridget Bradl(e)y in cormeen 14th July 1867!!

.......in CARNAROSS!!   

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0911
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 22:46 BST (UK)
Helps when you post the correct Parish!!!
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635087#page/60/mode/1up
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Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 22:49 BST (UK)
IF you assume she was 21 when she married.... then you can look for baptism

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635086#page/35/mode/1up and work back/forward from there!!
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 September 17 23:17 BST (UK)
a POSSIBLE

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Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Friday 08 September 17 00:19 BST (UK)
Here is the certificate unfortunately no info on it.

That's the Church record, I was hoping there would be a civil cert but the marriage doesn't appear to be registered. It should be in Kells District but there appears to be only 14 marriages for the entire year registered.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Friday 08 September 17 00:28 BST (UK)
I see their first child Bridget was born in Cormeen and Edward is a Tailor.
So Carnaross is more than likely where Bridget is from but possibly not Edward.

Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Friday 08 September 17 01:33 BST (UK)
Just noticed there are two Cormeens. (sorry I missed it the first times I looked)
There are two Mcguiness in the Applotment books in Cormeen in 1827 a William and a Charles
and the Civil Parish is Moynalty so I had a look at the RC Parish of Moynalty and there is a Cormeen listed there as well.
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0953
This baptism register starts 1830.
and even better there is a William McGuinness living in Cormeen Moynalty in Griffith's Valuation
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Friday 08 September 17 07:54 BST (UK)
Thank you sinnan. So which one do you think is Edwards father ? William or Charles? Thank you for the help, I am going to search It all later today. That is really good of you to find it, sorry it was an awkward one.
Bernie
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Friday 08 September 17 08:02 BST (UK)
Possibly neither?

You would still need to find a Baptisim for Edward, and as there is no parents names on the marriage you still wouldn't be 100% sure it was the correct Edward.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Friday 08 September 17 09:16 BST (UK)
I will go through all mcguinness's and take it from there.
Thanks again for your help. DNA  matches are ok, but are only as good as the tree they have. I have all these Mcguinness DNA matches and the one family I am looking for is proving hard to find.
Bernie
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Friday 08 September 17 10:01 BST (UK)
Page 23 1837 bottom left between 5&11is this image..(it won't let me upload it) Charles McGuinness and is it Mary/Katy and something I can't understand.
Is this baptism record with both parents   all you get you don't get the name of the child they are baptizing or am I doing something wrong ??
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Friday 08 September 17 10:10 BST (UK)
Page 23 1837 bottom left between 5&11is this image..(it won't let me upload it) Charles McGuinness and is it Mary/Katy and something I can't understand.
Is this baptism record with both parents   all you get you don't get the name of the child they are baptizing or am I doing something wrong ??

Just copy the www Link and paste it.
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: hallmark on Friday 08 September 17 10:13 BST (UK)
As in

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635250#page/23/mode/1up
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: Sinann on Friday 08 September 17 10:14 BST (UK)
well done hallmark

They are godparents of Nicholas McGrady
Title: Re: Edward McGuinness look up please Cormeen
Post by: tresario on Friday 08 September 17 10:22 BST (UK)
So the first line is the child and parents second line is godparents..thanks Hallmark and sinann
Olevel calligraphy I don't have  ???