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Title: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 07 September 17 17:55 BST (UK)
An unusual name that should stand out in records but can't find his birth on any records I have searched :-\.  Trying to figure out the origins of the name too.  Any help welcomed  :)

What I know:
Jemineo Williamson probably born between 1796 and 1800.
He married Caroline Goldsmith in St Pancras Chapel, London (or Middlesex as it was then) in Sept 1824 but died in Bishops Stortford in April 1839 aged 39 but that of course may not be correct.

Many thanks in advance for any light you can shed  ;D
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 07 September 17 17:59 BST (UK)
NBI has him Jemines.

Cas
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 07 September 17 18:03 BST (UK)
Thank you, Cas.

Just noticed that you list in your surname interests 'Squire' in Glamorgan.  I have one of those!
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 07 September 17 18:10 BST (UK)
JEMINCO   WILLIAMSON
Gender   Unknown
Death quarter   2
Death year   1839
District   Bishops Stortford
County   Hertfordshire
Volume   6 Page   317

Different variation on this Death reg.

My Squire family originated from Stoke St Gregory, Somerset. Where abouts in Glamorgan was yours?

Cas

Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 07 September 17 18:18 BST (UK)
GRO is differently spelt and age 30

WILLIAMSON, JEMINIO       age 30     
GRO Reference: 1839  J Quarter in THE BISHOPS-STORTFORD UNION  Volume 06  Page 317

Cas
 
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 07 September 17 18:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for that too  :)

My Squire family came over-the-water from the Great Torrington area near Bideford in Devon.  They originated from a tiny hamlet called Frithelstock. 

My other Welsh connections are Phillips, Chapman, Smale, Harris and Hughes, amongst others.  Mostly Newport area where they settled in the mid 1800s but some moved to Cardiff.  Still some in Treherbert.

Cheers!  :)
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 07 September 17 18:32 BST (UK)
Jemineo looks like a challenge!

Have Richard and Charlotte Haines (marriage witnesses) been traced in case they are related to him?

I see that a Richard Haines also witnessed the marriage of Jemineo and Caroline's daughter, Laura Caroline, in 1853 (St Botolph, Aldgate).
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 07 September 17 18:34 BST (UK)
Ah - no I haven't researched the Haines yet.  Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 07 September 17 18:46 BST (UK)
Richard Haines was father of Charlotte Haines.  Richard was widowed and went on to marry Charlotte Goldsmith after the death of Jemineo.

I am helping a friend with her research and have just noticed she has these Haines on her tree.  I shall poke a little further.....
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 07 September 17 18:48 BST (UK)
Just in case you don't already her in your tree, there was a last (sadly short-lived) daughter for Jemineo and Caroline:

Jane Williamson, mmn Goldsmith

Birth reg: Mar qtr 1839 Bishops Stortford
Death reg: Jun qtr 1839 Bishops Stortford aged 3 [probably 3 months]

Buried, 1 May 1839 at St Michael's, Bishops Stortford: Jane Williamson, infant.
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: Anne Squire on Wednesday 04 October 17 23:21 BST (UK)
Not related to the topic, but I'm descended from the Squire family of Frithelstock. Clara married Wright and her daughter Fanny married Lethaby and both moved to Fforchaman. I'm descended from Fanny's sibling. Are these names familiar to you?
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 05 October 17 07:42 BST (UK)
Hello Anne
Frithelstock is such a tiny place that I am sure we are connected.  At the moment, I don't have those names on my tree.  Do you have any dates for these people and previous names and generations? Fanny Ellen Squire hopped on the boat over to Glamorgan to join her married aunt in 1859 aged 16.

My great, great grandmother was Fanny Ellen Squire (1843-1937) born in Frithelstock died in Newport
Her father was John Squire (1819-1899) born in Buckland died in Newport
His father was Philip Squire (1787-1838) Born in Buckland died in Frithelstock

I do not have any information beyond that so if you have any leads that would be marvellous.  My tree is public on Ancestry.co.uk so you can view it if I send you a link.  Perhaps this may help. 

I love the Squire branch of my tree as it feels very close to me.  My mother knows many of the great stories dating back to the times of Fanny's arrival in Wales and there are still other descendants alive and well in the Valleys. It would make my day to find more twigs on the branch  :D

Best wishes

Helen Mason



Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: Anne Squire on Thursday 05 October 17 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm pretty sure we are related, but I will need to check the dates up and I don't have time at present. I think Philip is the younger brother of William Squire born 1883 Frithelstock. He was my 3X great Grandfather. Mary was Williams second daughter born 1810 Frith.  Her daughter Clara was born in the early 1830s or 40s.  Can't remember which at the moment.  There is no father listed for Clara, although I believe he was also called Squire and was from the other family in Frith.  Still trying to prove that one! Sorry to be so vague, but I have a busy day today and I don't have the time to check it up right now. Incidentally, Frith, and Buckland B. are only a handful of miles apart and which Church they went to seemed to depend on which farm they were working on at the time.  You may also want to look at Bulkworthy and Langtree.  I have a huge amount of info on the whole family for many generations, but it is not in my Ancestry tree, as I sort of gave up on that when it couldn't cope with 2nd cousins marrying each other. Ancestry account is under ycajunorg.
Title: Re: Finding Jemineo
Post by: MrsSelfPub on Thursday 05 October 17 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi again
I know all about that time thing.  The research is fascinating but you need the time to set aside for 'total immersion' in it. 
I will write you a message within RootsChat and we can take it from there.  Sounds exciting and I am planning a trip down that way in the half term break at the end of the month!
Helen