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Title: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: nicole_m38 on Friday 08 September 17 10:17 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,

I've been trying on and off for years to find details on Ellen Amelia Surridge who is my Great Great Grandmother.

I have information from 1897 onwards when she married William Henry Lee, and I believe I have her census record from 1891, when she worked as a servant for William Bull in Tottenham.

She was born in Leek, Staffordshire but I have failed to find any records of the Surridge family in Leek around that time. Unfortunately I don't have her marriage certificate to see who her father was.

Any help anyone can offer would be much appreciated.


Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 10:25 BST (UK)
You really need the marriage certificate to confirm her father and be sure you are following the right family :-\

Possible birth registration
Births Mar 1875 
SURRIDGE    Ellen Amelia    mothers maiden surname EVE   
Leek    6b   315

Marriage of parents
Dec qtr 1863
Surridge    John
Eve Martha
Chelmsford    4a   278   
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: emeltom on Friday 08 September 17 10:25 BST (UK)
www.freereg.org.uk

Ellen Amelia Surridge
Baptised 23 September 1877
Brereton St Michael, Staffs
Parents John and Martha
Fther's occupation Coachman.

You can also see an image of the original register entry on findmypast.

Emeltom
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 10:40 BST (UK)
1871 census for John, Martha & family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFG-R2V
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: wrjones on Friday 08 September 17 10:45 BST (UK)
Your doing very well Rosie and obviously quicker typing than I am.lol

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 10:57 BST (UK)
I wish my computer would speed up  ;D

I can see Martha a Widow in Chelmsford in 1891 - a lodger without any of the children.  Still looking for 1881
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 08 September 17 11:01 BST (UK)
I think you will really need the marriage certificate as Rosie said because looking at this family they never seemed to move much out of the Chelmsford area so I can't see why Ellen was baptised in Leek

But saying that I think I have found them on the 1881 census under the name of Sowerhatts

Willow x
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 11:05 BST (UK)
Other siblings
SURRIDGE, WILLIAM       mmn EVE     
1867  Dec Quarter in BILLERICAY  Volume 04A  Page 145

SURRIDGE, GEORGE  CHARLES     mmn EVE     
1870  June Quarter in CHELMSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 214 
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: wrjones on Friday 08 September 17 11:06 BST (UK)
The 1841 Census for Great Waltham Chelmsford sees Martha Eve with probable parents John and Mary Eve.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 11:09 BST (UK)
Also John E(ve) Surridge born before marriage

JOHN  SURRIDGE EVE  no mothers maiden name on index     
1863  Sept Quarter in CHELMSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 163
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: wrjones on Friday 08 September 17 11:10 BST (UK)
John Surridge is showing in 1841 at Hempstead Essex with probable parents John and Ann Surridge.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 11:14 BST (UK)
I think you will really need the marriage certificate as Rosie said because looking at this family they never seemed to move much out of the Chelmsford area so I can't see why Ellen was baptised in Leek

She was born March qtr 1875 baptised September 1877.  Father was a Coachman, I wonder who he was working for  ::)
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: nicole_m38 on Friday 08 September 17 11:31 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for your quick help!

I also can't work out why she would've been born/baptised in Staffordshire. All my family on that side are from the Chelmsford/Essex area so it does seem odd.

Of the Surridge family mentioned on the 1871 census I can't locate any of them (parents or children) in 1881. By 1891 they all appear to be lodgers or servants in other households.

I think you will really need the marriage certificate as Rosie said because looking at this family they never seemed to move much out of the Chelmsford area so I can't see why Ellen was baptised in Leek

She was born March qtr 1875 baptised September 1877.  Father was a Coachman, I wonder who he was working for  ::)

Rosie99 I'm curious about your coachman comment?

Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 11:36 BST (UK)
www.freereg.org.uk

Ellen Amelia Surridge
Baptised 23 September 1877
Brereton St Michael, Staffs
Parents John and Martha
Fther's occupation Coachman.

You can also see an image of the original register entry on findmypast.

Emeltom

Just speculation but baptism in Brereton, he could have been working here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brereton_Hall

I have no idea if it is nearby  ::)

Leek registration district covers these places
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/leek.html
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: nicole_m38 on Friday 08 September 17 11:40 BST (UK)
www.freereg.org.uk

Ellen Amelia Surridge
Baptised 23 September 1877
Brereton St Michael, Staffs
Parents John and Martha
Fther's occupation Coachman.

You can also see an image of the original register entry on findmypast.

Emeltom

Just speculation but baptism in Brereton, he could have been working here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brereton_Hall

It was because you put the eye-roll emoji, I didn't know if I was missing something.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 08 September 17 12:07 BST (UK)
JOHN Surridge Baptised 13 April 1827, St Andrew, Hempstead
Parents JOHN/ANN
Fathers Occp Farmer
Siblings;
WILLIAM 17 July 1814
GEORGE 21 Feb 1819
EMMA 18 Feb 1821
HARRIET ELIZA 22 June 1823
All have Johns occp as Farmer except earlier one William where he is a Labourer.
(FreeREG)

FreeREG also has Marriages for William 1840 and Harriett Eliza 1841 in Hempstead.

WILLIAM may have been buried soon after his Marriage 29 Jan 1841 age 26.

Looks like William and Harriet Eliza, siblings, married siblings (Treadgetts)
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: wrjones on Friday 08 September 17 12:18 BST (UK)
The only possible death I can find for John Surridge is in Wells Somerset in 1888?For Martha is shown as a Widow in 1891 when Showing as a Servant.Martha appears to have died in Chelmsford in 1930.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 08 September 17 12:33 BST (UK)
Susan Surridge never remarried and is born c 1819/20 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire.
They had 1 Child Mary Ann Bapt 13 June 1841 Hempstead.
She is mostly in Census with her Treadgett Parents.
Title: Re: Ellen Amelia Surridge b.1875
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 08 September 17 12:45 BST (UK)
The only possible death I can find for John Surridge is in Wells Somerset in 1888?For Martha is shown as a Widow in 1891 when Showing as a Servant.Martha appears to have died in Chelmsford in 1930.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

I think this is a different couple as I came across them when I was searching the census but like you I couldn't find a death for John

Willow x