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Title: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 14:50 BST (UK)
William Robert Duck married Ellen (Helen Lavelle Steensohn)

Govan Glasgow in 1927 any more on him and any children much appreciated 
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 10 September 17 15:36 BST (UK)
What other information do you have?

If they married in Scotland perhaps the research should be done on a Scottish board or do you think they came south?

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 15:43 BST (UK)
I know Ellen's (hellen) family history on paternal side just trying to find out more about her and William

They married in Glasgow 1927
She was 18 by 1930 I have her death record ... no idea if they had any children or who he was I cannot find any birth record for him there are 2 possible death records but I just have a gut feeling neither are him.. did he move away back to where he had come from? Did he re marry are there any of his descendants around if they had children if so they will be my grandads cousins and I'm sure he would love to know
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 10 September 17 16:04 BST (UK)
Have you tried www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, it is a subscription  site but it might help

If you have their marriage cert it will show a lot of information, more than we get on English certs so it should list his father if not both parents to trace him

Can't find anything listed on Ancestry , her maiden name is unusual so I would have thought it easy to trace births with her maiden name

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 10 September 17 16:05 BST (UK)
I've found the marriage on Scotland's People

William Robert Duck to Ellen Lavelle Steensohn

William's parents are Andrew and Sophia Duck and William's occupation is Seaman and he is 23 years old.  Date: 23rd February 1927.

If you want any further information send me a pm.
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 16:10 BST (UK)
Thanks iv tried doing the free search will need to pay for the marriage certificate to see more her family was easy with the surname and the fact there Norwegian and I managed to access everything free ! Right back to 1550! Full family lines in all directions 😁 Why don't we have that lol just put it on really to see if there was anyone who thought god I'm related to them ha there not direct Ellen is my mothers great Aunty just interested in the fact she died 3 years after her wedding at 21 years old and my grandad had never heard of her until I found her record
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 16:11 BST (UK)
Yea thanks I will pm now 😁
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:14 BST (UK)
Birth on Scotlands People for Helen Lavelle Steensohn 1908 Anderston Glasgow

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:15 BST (UK)
From Anc - William Robert Duck
Christening 5 July 1903 Warton (near Lancaster), Lancashire
Parents Andrew and Sophia Duck

Kay

Naval Service  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8490176
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:30 BST (UK)
This could be a possible for his parents 1901 census in Dalton in Furness Lancashire
Andrew Duck age 31 b Russia British Subject ( ship rigger )
Sophia Duck age 24 b Glasgow
John A Duck age 2 months

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 16:31 BST (UK)
You guys are amazing !!
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:40 BST (UK)
Another son for Andrew and Sophia
Albert Morrison Duck b16/4/1907 Carnforth Lancashire

Death for Sophia Duck 1941 Govan Lanarkshire other surname Morrison

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 16:43 BST (UK)
Ahhh yes I recall seen her as Sofia Morrison and bypassed it assuming no connection thank you 😊 just hope I can be as helpful to people as you guys have been
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:46 BST (UK)
Marraige on Scotlands People - Andrew Duck - Sophia Turner Morisson 1900 Blackfriars Glasgow
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 16:47 BST (UK)
The family are in Anderston Glasgow in the 1911 census
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 17:05 BST (UK)
There is a death for a William R Duck 1967 Barrow in Furness age 63  birth year about 1904 might be a possibility

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: isobelw on Sunday 10 September 17 17:09 BST (UK)
Think Andrew may have died 1912 in Hillhead, Glasgow age 41
Albert Morrison Duck married in Glasgow in 1933 and died there in 1970 age 63.
John Andrew Duck born 1901 in Ulverston, Lancashire ( on freeBMD but can't see it on GRO index).
1911 census also shows a Lucy age 6 but can't see an obvious match on FreeBMD or Scotlandspeople
( see it now - Lucilla Duck born Lancaster 1906 mmn showing as Morris)
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 17:20 BST (UK)
Yes Isobel would say that is the death for Andrew ..Baptism for Lucilla Duck 1905 Wharton St Oswald Lancashire ...Marriage and death for her on Scotlands People

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 17:29 BST (UK)
Again thank you all so much ! It's all tying together now but can anyone see any possible children for William and Helen, it's really if she had any kids that's the big question as they might be still living !
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 18:23 BST (UK)
What was the cause of death on Helen's death certificate ...You can have a look on Scotlands People for births Duck 1927=1930 to see if any names are familiar ..Theses births can only be viewed at a Scotlands People search room ..

Rosie
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: PearsonKenneway on Sunday 10 September 17 18:35 BST (UK)
Don't have the actual cert just what I have found on various online free searches
Title: Re: William Robert Duck
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 10 September 17 18:58 BST (UK)
Helen died of Bronchial Pneumonia and cardiac arrest . PM your e-mail address if you want certificate

Rosie