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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 12 September 17 15:06 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help me further? I am looking for the ancestors of Elijah Whittick (Whittuck) born in 1844 - 2q 1844 Bath 11 25.
Elijah Whittuck married OR lived with Sarah Speedy – I have not found a marriage in Somerset for them.
They had three children - Frederick William Whittick b 4q 1874 Bath 5c 622, James Whittick b 4q 1875 Bath 5c 608 and Elizabeth Whittick b 2q 1877 Bath 5c 641
Elijah Whittuck´s father may have married Frances Matilda Hughes, I have no confirmation for this marriage. Frances Matilda Whittick died in Bath 1889.
Muffin41
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Birth reg in 1844 gives mmn Hughes
WHITTUCK, - mmn HUGHES
1844 June Quarter in BATH Volume 11 Page 25
(Old GRO index gives it as Male Whittuck)
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Thanks Rosie :), so who was Frances Matilda Whittick´s nee Hughes husband?
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No idea at the moment though I am looking at this to see if it is relevant :-\
Marriages Dec 1839 - Bath registration district 11/49
BRIDGEMAN Hannah
CHURCHILL William
GORDON Julia Charlotte Mackenzie
Parker John
SLATER Frances Matilda
SUMMERS George
TUCKER Charlotte
WHITTRICK William James
Just adding marriage details from freereg in case it is relevant, I was hoping she was widowed
Somerset Walcot St Swithin
Marriage date 27 Nov 1839
William James WHITTUCK - bachelor
Grooms parish Bitton. Gloucester
occupation Captain in the Army
Bride Frances Matilda SLATER
Bride age Minor - Spinster
Brides abode Lambridge
Grooms father Samuel WHITTUCK - occupation Esquire
Brides father John James SLATER - occupation Major in the Army
Witnesses Frances Caroline SLATER & J PETERS
Now to see if I can find your Whittucks on census
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Elijah Whittuck´s father may have married Frances Matilda Hughes, I have no confirmation for this marriage. Frances Matilda Whittick died in Bath 1889.
I think that Frances Matilda that you have found dying in Bath is the one whose marriage I have posted, they are in Bath in 1881
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Birth reg in 1844 gives mmn Hughes
WHITTUCK, - mmn HUGHES
1844 June Quarter in BATH Volume 11 Page 25
(Old GRO index gives it as Male Whittuck)
I am not convinced that this is your Elijah. :-\
Whittuck children with mmn Hughes appear on census with parents Joseph W Whittuck and his wife Emily in Bath. I can account for most of their children but the have an Edward A Whittuck age 16 bn Bath in 1861 who would match this registration. Joseph Whittuck married Emily Hughes in Prescot, Lancashire in Sept qtr 1840 - Emily on census in Bath came from Prescot.
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1881 has Elijah as born Holcombe, Somerset (age 40)
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I was just about to post these details from Bath BMD - and was wondering if that was the male birth entry Rosie posted
1843 WHITTUCK Samuel Henry Pemberton HUGHES Lansdown Bath
1844 WHITTUCK (boy) Son Of Joseph Whittuck HUGHES Lansdown Bath
1845 WHITTUCK Frederick William HUGHES Walcot
1849 WHITTUCK Charles Augustus HUGHES Walcot
1851 WHITTUCK Selina Mary HUGHES Lansdown
1852 WHITTUCK Edith Amy HUGHES Lansdown Bath
Bp St Walcot Swithin father Joseph mother Emily Rosa
Samuel’ bpt father occ Esquire living 5 St James Square haven’t checked all of them
Samuel H P on 1871 census with mother Emily Rosa and four siblings
RG10; Piece: 107; Folio: 70; Page: 26
1861 RG 9; Piece: 1694; Folio: 70; Page: 28; the Whittuck family
from Lancashire BMD
1840 HUGHES Emily Rosa WHITTUCK Joseph Whittuck St Helens Parish
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1881 has Elijah as born Holcombe, Somerset (age 40)
pob on 1871 census is also Holcombe
Elijah mar. lodger age 39 occ shoemaker
RG10; Piece: 2481; Folio: 33; Page: 15
Edit - not sure if he's the same person due to age and occupation :-\
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Thanks for your additional findings Rosie it looks as if you have found the connection. :D
As the male Whittuck born 1844 had no name given; maybe he is Elijah :-\, or used that name, no other male Whitticks are named Elijah.
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I don't think that 1844 birth is your Elijah
I was just about to post these details from Bath BMD - and was wondering if that was the male birth entry Rosie posted
It is the same family I was looking at Ladyhawk Do you think we can discount them :-\
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When Elijah is not my Whittick, then who did Sarah Speedy marry? She is the mother the Whitticks I have in my tree.
James Whittick b 4q 1875 Bath 5c 608 married Emily Maria Pow 4q 1900 W Ham 4a 107, This Family lived in Leyton Essex. (Confirmed)
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Just putting a link to your old post on the Whittucks just for reference
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=488311.0
When Elijah is not my Whittick, then who did Sarah Speedy marry? She is the mother the Whitticks I have in my tree.
We are not disputing that Elijah had children with Sarah Speedy we just don't believe that birth reg you have given for 1844 is him ;D All three children showing in 1881 have their births registered as Whittick with mmn Speedy
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I don't think that 1844 birth is your Elijah
I was just about to post these details from Bath BMD - and was wondering if that was the male birth entry Rosie posted
It is the same family I was looking at Ladyhawk Do you think we can discount them :-\
Rosie there doesn't appear to be a baptism for the 1844 son of Joseph to see what his first name is
1844 WHITTUCK (boy) Son Of Joseph Whittuck HUGHES Lansdown Bath
These are the only baptism I can find on anc*y for that family - nothing for an Elijah ???
Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
Samuel Henry Pemberton Whittuck
27 Apr 1843 Walcot St Swithin Joseph Whittuck,Emily Rosa
Frederick William Whittuck Whittuck
24 Oct 1845 Walcot St Swithin Joseph Whittuck,Emily Rosa
Emilyy Gertrude Whittuck
8 Sep 1848 Walcot St Swithin Joseph, Emily Rosa
Charles Augustus Whittuck
23 Nov 1849 Walcot St Swithin Joseph, Emily Rosa
Selina Mary Whittuck 1
6 Apr 1851 Walcot St Swithin Joseph Whittuck, Emily Rosa
Selina Mary Whittuck
20 Apr 1851 Walcot St Swithin Joseph, Emily Rosa
Edith Amy Whittuck
15 Aug 1852 Walcot St Swithin Joseph Whittuck, Emily Rosa
I can't find anything for Elijah Whittuck born Holcome c 1840
and I can only see the 1881 census and the possible entry for 1871 census
Muffin41 - do you have Elijah on earlier census records?
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Ladyhawk
1871 Elijah Whittick living at Rose & Anchor, Marchant´s Passage, Bath
1881 living at 11 Georges Place, Lyncombe
I don´t know where this one came from :-[
1884 Elijah & Sarah living at 4 St Georges Terrace, Dolemeads, Lyncombe
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1871 Elijah Whittick living at Rose & Anchor, Marchant´s Passage, Bath
1881 living at 11 Georges Place, Lyncombe
I don´t know where this one came from :-[
1884 Elijah & Sarah living at 4 St Georges Terrace, Dolemeads, Lyncombe
Thanks Muffin - do you think a mistake has been made with his age ???
1871 - 39 occ shoemaker
1881 - 40 occ Coal Merchants Porter
I can't seem to place him on earlier censuses ???
I don't know if this is the same Elijah
Elijah Whittuck
Date of Trial: 16 Oct 1877 Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Imprisonment, Larceny after a conviction of felony 6 months
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I think that in 1871 he is 29 years old, I have 27 when he was born in 1844, enumerators error? :-\
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Hi....
I've found this entry in Stratton on the Fosse.
George Whittick hdm 55 coal miner
Martha Whittick wi m 54
Sidney. Son u 25 aglab
ELIJAH. SON U 20 SHOE MAKER b Holcome Somerset
Pheobe. Daughter u 17 employed at home
HO 107 /1933f 21 p1
Next door is also a Mark Whittick.
Tazzie
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Well done Tazzie ;D
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8) Tazzie, every snippet helps :)
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A marriage for them is possibly here...
George Whittick
Martha Padbury
25 December 1820 in Walcot St Swithin Somerset.
Tazzie
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Well done Tazzie found them on 1841 census
Surname transcribed as WHIDDOCK ::)
George 40 coal miner
Martha 40
Mark 15
Sidney 15
Mary 15
John 12
ELIJAH 10
Phebey 7
HO107; P 939; Civil Parish: Midsomer Norton; Somerset; E D: Downside College; F12; P: 20
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1861 Elijah 30 born Holcombe occ. cordwainer married to Elizabeth son Albert
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NW-WNZ
This looks to be Albert's birth reg.
WHITTOCK, ALBERT mmn ASHMAN
1855 J Quarter in CLUTTON Volume 05C Page 694
Jun 1855 Shepton M 5c 971
ASHMAN Elizabeth
Male name on same page
WHIDLICK/WHIDTICK Elijah Francis
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That's why we lost him even more spellings of the surname. :)
Tazzie
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Thank you all for searching on my behalf, I will have to sort everything out and see where what fits into my original query. :D :D
I have found out once again that the Rootschat members always love a mystery to solve if possible. 8)
Muffin41 :)
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Mark Whittock Baptism 30 Sep 1821 Holcombe, Somerset, England
Father: George Whittock occ coal miner
Mother: Martha Whittock
Found the above, then just used Holcombe and parents names - with all the variations with their surname no wonder he's been so difficult to find ::)
Elija MIDDOCK Baptism 11 Aug 1833 Holcombe, Somerset, England
Father: George occ collier
Mother: Martha
also baptised on that day was Phebe surname looks to read WIDDOCK
Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914 details from Anc*y
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Thank you all for searching on my behalf, I will have to sort everything out and see where what fits into my original query. :D :D
Please come back and let us know how you get on :)
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Elijah Whittuck married OR lived with Sarah Speedy – I have not found a marriage in Somerset for them.
I can't see an marriage for them either ??? The only one I could find was 1868 Gravesend for a Sarah Ann Speedy she married John Thomas Miles, and her father named John
There are two for a Sarah Speed 1871 Shepton M / 1874 Bridgewater but neither married an Elijah
If that is the correct Elijah married to Elizabeth (nee Ashman) on 1861c
is it possible that he was still married to Elizabeth and he and Sarah just lived together as man & wife :-\
Do you have Sarah Speedy on the 1871 census ?
Do you have her death entry was it Whit..... or Speedy?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-XG6J
I see from the 1881 census above she's born Westwood
a Sarah Speedy can be found on the 1841c to 1851c census born Westwood with her siblings and their parents William & Ann and she appears as a servant age 19 single on the 1861 census in the household of Elizabeth Werton.
You may already have all the above information as you were asking about Elijah but just in case.....
This looks to be her birth entry
SPEEDY, SARAH mmn LANE
1839 J Quarter in THE BRADFORD UNION Volume 08 Page 273
I don´t know where this one came from :-[
1884 Elijah & Sarah living at 4 St Georges Terrace, Dolemeads, Lyncombe
Elijah Whittick
Publication Year: 1884
Address: 4, S. George's terrace, Dolemeads
Residence Place: Bath, Somerset, England
Occupation: Drayman
UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946
Is this his death entry FreeBMD?
Dec 1889 Bath 5c 391
Whittick Elijah age 52
from BathBMD 1889
WHITTICK Elijah 52 Lyncombe/Widcombe - First Series Bath
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Back online after a visit to my doctor; absent without leave :-[ ;D
Ladyhawk
Found on FreeBMD -
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
________________________________________Deaths Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Whittick Sarah 64 W. Ham
4a 329
Whittick Sarah 72 W. Ham
4a 329a
I also have Sarah´s mother surname as Lane.
1861 census she is living at St James, North Parade, Bath
1901 census – widow –at 1 St. Georges Terrace, Bath
1911 census – widow - Living with daughter Elizabeth Trebble & family in Leytonstone