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Title: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: kob3203 on Wednesday 13 September 17 17:30 BST (UK)
Somebody pointed out that the surname Lane doesn't sound Irish.

The name appeared as the mother of one Ellen Cusack on her 8 Mar 1859 Glanworth and Ballindangan marriage record. Her father was James Cusack, which does sound Irish - I think ?


Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 13 September 17 17:39 BST (UK)
1901 census for Lane, RC  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kpu/
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: magnacarta on Wednesday 13 September 17 19:26 BST (UK)
My Lane family came over from Ireland during the 1840's.
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: conahy calling on Wednesday 13 September 17 19:50 BST (UK)
https://www.johngrenham.com/

Some info on surnames on this link.

Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: kob3203 on Thursday 14 September 17 08:36 BST (UK)
Thank you. That John Grenham site is a great resource - so it's probably the Cork Ó Liatháins.
(Just realized it's Irish Ancestors, a paying site. But there's still loads of useful information there for free)
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 16 September 17 12:00 BST (UK)

Ellen baptised on 29 August 1840 for parents James Cusack and Jane Lane:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/23/mode/1up

Thomas previously baptised for parents with same names on 24 January 1836:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/4/mode/1up

Patrick baptised on 10 September 1843:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/36/mode/1up

Catherine baptised on 11 April 1848:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/53/mode/1up

Mary baptised on 10 March 1851 for parents James Cusack and Joanna? Lane:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/60/mode/1up

Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: kob3203 on Saturday 16 September 17 13:19 BST (UK)
Thanks gaffy. Mary's one we hadn't spotted.
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 17 September 17 20:31 BST (UK)
Lanes in Ireland have been around for over 350 years in Ireland see some of the
Hearth Money Rolls 1660’s in
http://www.billmacafee.com
column headings
Record No.  No. in Barony List  County  Barony  Parish  Townland (Modern Spelling)  Townland as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls  Forename as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls  Surname as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls  Surname [Standardised]
17812  1424  Antrim  Massereene Upper  Magheramesk  Trummery  Unnamed  Allex  Leane  Lane
17814  1426  Antrim  Massereene Upper  Magheramesk  Trummery  Unnamed  Mc  O Leane  Lane
13915  306  Antrim  Belfast Upper  Shankill  Town of Belfast  Parish of Belfast  John  Leane  Lane
1950  802  Donegal  Inishowen East  Donagh  Carrowreagh  Carowreagh  Bryan  o'Lane  Lane
4446  2418  L'Derry  Loughinsholin  Artrea  Moneymore  Part of Moneymore town  Elizabeth  Lane  Lane
2697  669  L'Derry  Keenaght  Tamlaght Finlagan  Ballykelly  Ballykelly  Captain Nicholas  Lane  Lane
as to their religious beliefs, remember some irish have changed their denomination probably in as many years

1823-1838 The Tithe Applotment Books 
the distribution of many Lane but not all by any means
17 entries in the Six counties
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/
443 Lane entries in the twenty-six counties see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/
these include
Lane   George   Caherdrinny   Glanworth   Cork   1825
Lane   William   Caherdrinny   Glanworth   Cork   1825
Lane   Patk      Glanworth   Glanworth   Cork   1825
Lane   Michael   Ballindangan Castleterry   Ballydeloughy   Cork   1825

good luck onwards
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: crb83 on Friday 29 September 17 16:51 BST (UK)
I have distant cousins who were Maclaine and took the Mc Off in the 1700s, probably because they were in a predominantly English area and attempting to assimilate/anglicize. So there are definitely Lanes out there who may have been OLeighin (native Irish) from the south or  MacLane from the north (either settler or gallowglass origin).   I would explore every possibility and not assume anything.
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: sallyyorks on Friday 29 September 17 17:49 BST (UK)
The gb surnames site also has it as an 'English' surname. Seems to be most prevalent in the south

http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/

LANER   Unclassified
LANES   English - Other; Regional; East Midlands
LANE      English - Locational Name; Generic Feature; Other
LANEY   English - Locational Name; Settlement Ending; Ney

Great Britain Frequency (1998)   27624   100
Great Britain Frequency (1881)   20544   
Great Britain Rate (1998)   701   
Great Britain Rate (1881)   760   
Northern Ireland   84.06   12.2
Republic of Ireland   91.38   13.3
Australia   885.03   128.9
New Zealand   630.33   91.8
United States   906.86   132.1
Canada   583.45   85.0


Great Britain top area (1881)   Gloucester
Great Britain top area (1998)   Hereford
Great Britain top area index *   318
Great Britain top postal town   Gloucester

Cultural, Ethnic, Linguistic categories of surname - British



Another surname site
http://www.selectsurnames3.com/lane.html
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: kob3203 on Saturday 30 September 17 14:06 BST (UK)
I hadn't realized just how confusing a simple thing like a surname could be !
Thanks to suggestions and links here I get the feeling that in NE Co. Cork the name seems most likely to be Irish, from Ó Laighin/O Leighin. But I'm not ruling anything out yet.
Title: Re: Surname Lane - Was It A Common Irish RC Name In The Early 1800s?
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 30 September 17 15:27 BST (UK)
The Tithe Applotment Books  are well known to be incomplete and selective and yet interesting. I mentioned them previously I don’t know my catholic parishes compared to my civic parishes, but having mentioned them simply before here’s abit more detail ie heres a starting search surely for Jane Lane’s father
GEORGE LANE Caherdrinny  Glanworth  Cork  1825 plot 185  11acres of ploughland
WILLIAM LANE   Caherdrinny  Glanworth  Cork  1825  plot 186  19acres of ploughland
see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587445/004587445_00260.pdf
PATK LANE  Glanworth  Glanworth  Cork1825 plot 324 1 acre in Broches?quartertown plots see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587445/004587445_00268.pdf
In 1851 the only homestead left for the Lanes in Glanworth is John Lane living in main Street map ref 35’36 http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ for a bit more see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glanworth

WILLIAM LANE no plot number 5 acres the townland appears to be subdivided into ‘ShannaBallindangan needs checking, and civil parish is Ballydeloughy 30 years later no lanes in Griffiths Valuation for Ballydelough
see http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587403/004587403_00597.pdf go onto google satelite and down to street scenes
it  looks a lovely place for a holiday
look out for surviving church records good luck onwards