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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Derbyshire => England => Derbyshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: boscoe on Thursday 14 September 17 00:07 BST (UK)
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The fine assistance from RootsChat people on parish help in Nott. and Lincoln. have led me to Derbyshire. In the past, we [a distant cousin] searched for our great grandparents, and with minor success. We are not interested in any of their children; we know them.
I wonder if anyone of you might want this detective challenge. We'd greatly appreciate it.
George Jackson born 1833 in Lenton, Nott [what month and day?]
He married [when and where?] Hannah Purdy
She was bpt. 20 Apr 1833 [probably South Wingfield. What parish or church is this?] and died about 1905[month and day], probably Clay Cross.
Her father was Samuel Purdy born 1796 [where; who is he?]. Her mother was named Hannah [no last name] probably born 1801, maybe in Nott. These were farm people who seem to have migrated to South Wingfield where George and then his kids worked in a stocking mill. Sam maybe dead by 1851 and the wife by 1861. My guess is that George-Hannah married around 1856 because their first child is 1857 in North Retford, Nott., as in 1859, 1860. But after that , it's Stretton. George died Apr 17,1917. I think that both are buried in Clay Cross. In a postcard to my mother he wrote about his love of pork pies. I sense a good personality there.
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Hi
Not much info but I can tell you that the couple were married
15 Aug 1855 at St Anthony, Lenton, Notts. (Anglican Church)
claire
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Hannah was baptised on 20 Apr 1834 South Wingfield All Saints, parents: Samuel & Hannah.
Fathers Occ: Framework Knitter
I have three sources with the year as 1834 opposed to 1833
claire
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George Jackson born 1833 in Lenton, Nott [what month and day?]
He married [when and where?] Hannah Purdy
No birth certs until 1837 so you would have to depend on a baptismal record but that may not give his exact birthdate - just his baptismal date
Have you not checked freebmd to find his marriage to Hannah and their deaths? www.freebmd.org.uk
If you want the exact dates you may have to buy a copy of the certs
Have you checked Family Search?
https://familysearch.org/search
Have you looked for Samuel Purdy on any of the available censuses to establish his birthplace?
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From the census the mother Hannah was born in Lambton Notts.
There is this marriage
Samuel PURDY & Hannah MARSHALL - By Banns on 05 Aug 1821 at Lambton Holy Trinity.
Witnesses: Charlotte Tomlinson & Joseph Wilson
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No exact death dates as Carole says the certs would have to be bought for that info. Burial -
Samuel Purdy buried 17 Feb 1850 South Wingfield All Saints, aged: 56
I think Hannah Purdy was still alive in 1861 & 1871 living with other children, in one a Marshall relative is with them.
1861 - Class: RG 9; Piece: 2526; Folio: 101; Page: 2 ( Hannah Purdy born 1798 LAMBLEY ) ***
1871 - Class: RG10; Piece: 4700; Folio: 77; Page: 20 ( Hannah Purdy born c1799)
*** Hannah Marshall bpt. 4 Feb 1798 Lambley Holy Trinity , Notts. Parents: Samuel & Elizabeth Marshall
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1851 Census has a George Jackson, born c 1833 Bestwood, a Farm Labourer in Bunny.
1841 Census
Bestwood Park,
Lenton, Nottinghamshire
Will Jackson, 40, Ag Lab, Not born In county
Sarah Jackson, 40
Eliza Jackson, 12
Han Jackson, 10
George Jackson, 8
Elizh Jackson, 4
Wills Jackson, 2
All but William are born in County
On most Census George is born Bestwood and in 1881 Bestwood Park**
1851 Census we have;
William Jackson, 44, born Thorseby, Lincolnshire
Sarah Jackson, 44
Elizabeth Jackson, 14
William Jackson, 11
John Jackson, 9
Charles Jackson, 5
Tresa Jackson, 2***
*** 1861 she is Therze and later seems to be ThirzaThizza Blackburn
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By 1871 Sarah is Sarah WIDNALL a Widow, born c 1804 Arnold
Charles/Thizza are with her.
Marriage is on FreeREG 23 Nov 1862, St Leodegarius, Basford to Robert Widnal
Unfortunately it does not show her Fathers name and therefore her maiden name.
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Many thanks for your effort. Sharron Jackson [g.grd.daughter] wrote that she is taking chemo well, thanks you for your kind effort, and looks forward to my sending her any unified results.]
I have an outline now of Jackson and Purdy but with several holes that I tried to fill using your suggestions finding no luck. I'll list them here.
[PS: Claire: for Hannah Purdy my Apr 20, 1833 contested as 1834 could be wrong. I might have noted the wrong page in Matlock years ago where the parish registers resided. It was p. 77. If your three say 1833, so it was. Hannah will never know.
1. Samuel Purdy b. in Derbyshire, 1796.[Census 1841, p. 8 and 1851, p. 25] Where? Who were his parents and where did they come from? [Namesake granddaughter, Hannah Purdy, years ago told me that she didn't know but wondered if it were Ireland. Seemed nonsensical]
2. Sarah Hall Jackson death date. [is wife of William; they produced Geo 1833]
3. Of the 8 Purdy children two births/bpt seem unrecorded from 1833-1837: Eliza and William.
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Samuel PURDIE christened 11 Aug 1793, South Wingfield, Derbyshire.
Parents WM/JANE
(Familysearch.Org)
Siblings christenings;
JOHN Purdie 24 May 1795
MARY Purdey 14 May 1797
SARAH Purdey 12 May 1799
WILLIAM Purdey 12 Dec 1802
JAMES Purdey 10 Feb 1805
JANE Purdey 19 May 1807
THOMAS Purdey 27 April 1809
GEORGE Purdey 11 Nov 1814, buried 16 Nov 1817
Marriage;
10 Dec 1792, All Saints, South Wingfield
William PURDY, Bachelor to Jane HOLLINWORTH, Spinster
(FreeREG)
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FreeREG has Marriages South Wingfield for;
Sarah 1821
Jane 1825
James 1832
Mary 1834
All under spelling of Purdy
Mary married late and in 1851 Census Mary Hawkesley was born c 1798 Sth Wingfield.
She is still alive in 1871 Census.
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1841 in South Wingfield we have;
William Rirdy, 69 (1772), Ag Lab
In same House are the Hawkesleys and Ellen Taylor age 15
(Likely the Daug of Sarah Purdy who married Peter Taylor 1821)
Samuel/Hannah and children are on same page.
WM Purdey
Baptised 11 Oct 1772. Crich, Crich, Derbyshire, England
Father: SAML. Purdey
(Anc.)
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JANE Purdy
age 59
birth: 1774
burial: 21 July 1833, South Wingfield, Derbyshire, England
WILLIAM Purdy
age 70
birth: 1773
burial: 5 February 1843, South Wingfield
Both on F/S.Org
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FreeREG has the 1772 Baptism for William in Crich, plus 3 siblings.
+ the bonus of their Mothers christian name and surname
And their Marriage 1767 (use the soundex option as under Purday)
Burials of Parents are there also 1786/1800
Definitely need soundex for them!
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So there was a spelling change. Figures. Many thanks. Now we know where Sam came from.
Most amusing to me was your find of Mary. When I went to the Pub Rd Off in Westminster for Census searches 30 years ago, one nice thing was that you could page around in the neighborhood and see people and occupations. Mary was there. Who is this? Here's what I wrote. "Then the family moved to South Wingfield, Hannah's mother is absent from the area suggesting her death. But, living in an 'alley house' next to them was a probable aunt, widow Mary Purdy [you have 97 and 98; no issue with me](1799? in Codnor, Dby). A 'charwoman,' she was one who did odd jobs (PRO: Census, 1861: RG 9/2513, p. 22).
Have to go now; comments later. Again, thank you.
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I was able to take it back one step further. Many thanks.
The family came from an old village of Wessington in northeastern Dby, cited in the Domesday (1086) as Wistanestune. Born there, Samuel PurdEY married Sivil Fox at St. Marys Church in nearby Crich in 1767. He died in 1786 and she in 1800.
Now it's finding the b. of the 2 kids Eliza and William and d. of Sarah Hall Jackson. I've tried parish records and FreeBMD with no luck. Any suggestions?
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I cant find anything on FreeBMD for the 2 childrens birth regs.
Or Parish Records for them.
I looked under Widnall and variants for Sarahs death reg or possible remarriage after 1871 with no luck either.
Sorry not much help.
So Sarah was nee Hall? When/where did they marry?
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Hi Trish
I can't find anything for the missing children either
Marriage
Lenton St Anthony 16 May 1826 after Banns
William Jackson & Sarah Hall
Witnesses: Thomas Brownlow & William Shippam
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Many thanks. The kids aren't that important to me.
As for Sarah Hall Jackson, maybe she is still with us...........or died in Tibet.
jim
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Thanks for looking for the children claire and for posting the Marriage :)
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In writing the genealogy of the Purdys, I find that you spell [see page 1, sept 14] the village 2 ways for the same person. I hit Wikipedia for the answer and it tells me that there are two villages by those names: Lambton and Lambley. Can you please clarify my confusion as to which one you mean.
And, second, what is the church name in South Wingfield?
Many thanks for all your kind help.
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You mean this lot?
Samuel PURDIE christened 11 Aug 1793, South Wingfield, Derbyshire.
Parents WM/JANE
(Familysearch.Org)
Siblings christenings;
JOHN Purdie 24 May 1795
MARY Purdey 14 May 1797
SARAH Purdey 12 May 1799
WILLIAM Purdey 12 Dec 1802
JAMES Purdey 10 Feb 1805
JANE Purdey 19 May 1807
THOMAS Purdey 27 April 1809
GEORGE Purdey 11 Nov 1814, buried 16 Nov 1817
Familysearch just has South, Wingfield, no Church named.
Didnt you look at these yourself?
If a Church was named on anything I posted I have typed it in except on thesel
FreeREG has Marriages South Wingfield for;
Sarah 1821
Jane 1825
James 1832
Mary 1834
All under spelling of Purdy
These were at All Saints.
I just expected you would look at the entries on FreeREG yourself.
Trish :)
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OK. Thanks. I've got it now. These people just keep naming themselves over and over by the same name and for me it's very confusing. And, people make town names very similar.
It's Hannah Marshall that is Lambley 4/2/98 and it's Hannah Purdy that's in Lambton and both are in Nott.
And, All Saints in South Wingfield is called South Wingfield All Saints.