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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: rattler on Tuesday 19 September 17 12:24 BST (UK)
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For years I have been searching for my Walsh side of family. I now know Thomas Murphy married my gt.aunt Bridget Walsh and in 1901 census they lived in Slippery Green. I believe one of their sons had a photographers shop on Main Street, Wexford Town. Hoping someone from the Murphy family can finally shed light on my gt.grandfather John Walsh. Anne
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Bit confused...
I can't find Sippery Green in 1901 but is this the family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Wexford_No__2_Urban/Slippery_Green/697718/
Looking at the map I can see Distillery Road is in Slippery Green, Parish of St.Peters
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,704526,621020,11,9
Looking for the births of the children in that census I think that Bridget is Bridget Bale.
I can see an Edward and a Bridget born Distillery road to Thomas and Bridget Bale.
I can't see a marriage for Thomas Murphy and Bridget Walsh in Wexford around the same time as Thomas and Bridget Bale.
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Here is that Murphy/Bale marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10392/5784220.pdf
So it doesn't look like the one you thought :-\
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Back to the drawing board. I found her birth reg in King Street, 1880 but the marriage record I found had about 7 names and as hers and Thomas Murphy were on it it assumed wrongly it was the one I was looking for. Never mind. Thanks for sending them, stops me going down wrong road. Anne
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Hi,
There is only Bridget's birth showing in 1880 and there is one death, 2nd quarter 1880 for Bridget Walsh.
Heywood
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For years I have been searching for my Walsh side of family. I now know Thomas Murphy married my gt.aunt Bridget Walsh and in 1901 census they lived in Slippery Green. I believe one of their sons had a photographers shop on Main Street, Wexford Town. Hoping someone from the Murphy family can finally shed light on my gt.grandfather John Walsh. Anne
Why don't you post a link to things you've found?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Wexford_No__2_Urban/Slippery_Green/697718/ is them in 1911, 12 years married, so people can look for marriage 1899.
He is a sawyer on 1911 Census.... so easier to find now from 1911 Census link
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Rural/Whiterock_South/1804585/
in 1901 census they did NOT live in Slippery Green!
YOU know Thomas Murphy married your gt.aunt Bridget Walsh...but why not tell people where or when?
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Hallmark,
It isn't the right marriage or couple - see above, especially post #3
Heywood
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Hallmark,
It isn't the right marriage or couple - see above, especially post #3
Heywood
OK, thanks.
Less confusion when facts are posted.
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Seems I will have to start over again for my elusive Walsh family. John Walsh marrying Mary Furlong are two names which appear in so many records. Thanks for all suggestions, Anne's
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Hi,
I tried to read your other thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=482775. but it strayed a bit, I think.
Is that your starting point - John Walsh and Mary Furlong, parents of Bridget and others? Are you trying to go back from that couple?
Heywood
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Think Anne is trying to figure out what happened to this child.
Bridget born Feb 1880 to John Walsh, Sailor and Mary Furlong, King St.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02882/2056246.pdf
Have you considered the possibility she may have died young or do you know from family that she married?
There is only her birth showing for a Bridget Walsh born 1880 Wexford and only one death for Bridget Walsh 1880, she is indexed as age 0 Wexford.
Death cert image not online yet.
Edited to add, I don't see a Bridget Walsh born 1879 that the death could be, but it's only speculation until the cert comes online.
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Hi Sinann,
See my reply #4 re Bridget.
I don't think it is particularly Bridget who is the focus, she is here, I know, but perhaps a way to find more information re her brother who is the ancestor.
The thread I linked to is confusing because other posters then mentioned their Walsh relatives.
I thought it might be best to start at the beginning (again) but that was just my opinion. ;)
Heywood
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Hi Sinann,
See my reply #4 re Bridget.
I don't think it is particularly Bridget who is the focus, she is here, I know, but perhaps a way to find more information re her brother who is the ancestor.
The thread I linked to is confusing because other posters then mentioned their Walsh relatives.
I thought it might be best to start at the beginning (again) but that was just my opinion. ;)
Heywood
I agree, it is too confusing!!
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I got the impression she knows what happened to John ( her grandfather) and was now trying to follow up on his siblings.
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Yes Haywood is correct. The main people I am looking for are John Walsh and Mary Furlong, my gt.grandparents. I know that granddad John Joseph was born king street 1882. School records from Christian brothers confirm this. 3 brothers William, James and Frank. On grandads marriage certificate address is Castlehill Street and confirmed in 1901 census. His parents both age 40. As no sisters on form I assumed granddad was oldest child but have since been told that there were 2 older sisters. One married a photographer who had a shop on Main Street? And if memory serves me right his name was Murphy. Of Granddads brothers, William died in 1905 at 19, James married but disappeared leaving wife and children and Frank sailed off to America with no family so sisters are my last hope. This originally began in Walsh of Wexford some time ago. Here endeth the lesson for today, Anne.
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Wrote this before last 2replies were posted..
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So you only have the name of one sister?
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Thanks Rattler. :)
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I see the other sister Mary Anne born 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03007/2102229.pdf
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That's great, Sinann.
Rattler,
Is Katie Walsh your grandmother?
Heywood
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No my grandfather is John Joseph Walsh married Mary Anne O'Rourke of Shool street but married in Dublin just to add to complications. His brother James married Mary Anne Walsh from Slippery Green. Think a cup of tea is called for. Anne
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Something slightly stronger perhaps.
William Walsh' death was reported by Katie Walsh, sister in law. I just wondered who she was.
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That 1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Urban_No__2/Castlehill_Street/1807497/
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Is this the William you have from 1901 plus the death at 19 yrs?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05600/4574427.pdf
I recall there were some photos on your other thread re Swan View and The Faythe. ???
Do you have any of the family in 1911?
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No my grandfather is John Joseph Walsh married Mary Anne O'Rourke of Shool street but married in Dublin just to add to complications. His brother James married Mary Anne Walsh from Slippery Green. Think a cup of tea is called for. Anne
So presumably this is Mary Ann and her children in 1911?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003619261/
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I did send for copy of death cer but when I saw Swan View as address I thought it was wrong as they where in Castlehill Street in 1901 and her name didn't fit so discarded it. The photos were posted by Wexflyer on his visit. He was one who told me there were 2 sister as he was related to the deserted wife, Aunt Mary. I will try to contact him again and see if he remembers the name of the sister who married the photographer. As for 1911 census, boys were all at sea and father was also a sailor, master I am told. I can't find hide nor hair of Mary. It's times like this I wish I could slug back a strong whiskey but a glass of wine sends me asleep these days so I will stick to tea. Anne
I spotted last post. Yes that was her with twins. On visit from Liverpool.
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Can someone else have a look at this.
I thought to look for the girls Baptisims but I can't find a John Walsh and Mary Furlong, there is girls of the correct year and month to John Walsh and Mary Morrisy or Morris.
Could Mary have been a widow?
Maybe I just haven't found the correct ones.
First on the left
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634141#page/218/mode/1up
Left page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634141#page/165/mode/1up
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Only 6, RC, Photographers in Wexford 1911 Census only 3 married.....
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01krn/
3 in 1901 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kro/
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I saw the record for Mary Morris 1880 and also march 77 for Mary Anne. But when I went back to my ancestry record for the births Mary Furlong is mother. Ireland births and baptisms 1620-1911 so search goes on. Headache is
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Perhaps husband became a photographer later in life. Anyway I am giving up for now but no doubt I will be back.
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There are at least two John Walsh and Mary Furlong
Loads of birth/baptisms here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01krp/
Just looking at the ones with Mary Furlong Walsh there is this birth for Mary Margaret 1873, father John a sailor but John St.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03207/2176117.pdf
and if the baptisms of Bridget and Mary Anne is on FamilySearch why can't I find them grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Another one matching up or not as the case may be
Mary Margaret to John Walsh and Mary Morris
left hand page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634141#page/76/mode/1up
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John Walsh and Mary Furlong marriage Nov 1872
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634140#page/35/mode/1up
Civil Reg
John
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01krq/
Mary
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01krr/
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Think we need to wait for Wexflyer.
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Something slightly stronger perhaps.
William Walsh' death was reported by Katie Walsh, sister in law. I just wondered who she was.
This looks like Katie Walsh - the address etc
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10357/5770721.pdf
So was there a Thomas in the family?
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This Thomas is from the FS list posted by Sinann. He is born 1874 but on marriage in 1900 is 21 :-\
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03158/2158577.pdf
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My sister said she thought there might a be a Thomas but nothing for sure. I have left message for Wexflyer so fingers crossed. Most annoying thing is that grandad and gran lived with us but I think he had a falling out just after they were married and thought gran went back to visit Wexford with mum and her sister, grandad didn't go with them. Wish I had asked more about his side but hindsight is a great thing. We had so many O'Rourkess and Harpurs that I didn't miss the Walsh side. Hey ho.