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Title: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Mary Crane on Saturday 23 September 17 06:01 BST (UK)

Hi
I have a James McGowan dob 1812 Ireland at the Barracks in 1861 occupation 'Barracks Labourer - Pensioner' with his wife Catherine dob 1816 Ireland.  I assume he was a Chelsea Pensioner.  He had three daughters - Jane 1850 in Scotland, Catherine 1852 in Ireland and Lucy 1854 in Newport so I am guessing he moved around with the Army.

I can't find James prior to 1861.
I've tried to discover his Regiment etc. but no luck.  Also, to obtain Chelsea Pensioner records from the National Archives (which I had done in a previous case some years ago) it now refers me to Find My Past, of which I am not a member. (I subscribe to Ancestry),  When entering the limited details I do have on FindMyPast there is a list of James McGowan in the Army and I have no idea which one it might be.
Does anyone know if there is a way around this please? 

Thanks

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 23 September 17 09:31 BST (UK)

possible?

James McGowan
Birth year   1812
Birth parish   Templeboyd, Birth town   Dromorewest, county   Sligo, Ireland
Service number   709
Attestation date   10 Feb 1831, age 19 years
Attestation service number   709, Attestation corps 27th Regt Of Foot
Discharge corps   27th Foot
Series   Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Copyright The National Archives
Archive reference   WO 97/Box 464/record number 141 & 142

One is attestation the other discharge.

Cas

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 23 September 17 09:45 BST (UK)

The above man named by Cas was discharged aged 40 in1851, intended residence Dublin.

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 23 September 17 10:01 BST (UK)

1861 he is a barracks lab & pensioner, dau born 1852 Ireland, destination was Dublin

His trade on attestation was Lab.

Possible?

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 23 September 17 10:46 BST (UK)

Same service number

James McGowan
Service number   709, Rank   Private
Unit or regiment   27th Foot
Year   1841
Location   Cape of Good Hope
The National Archive reference   WO 12/4362

James McGowan
Year   1851
Service number   709, Rank   Private
Regiment or unit   27th (Inniskilling) Regiment Of Foot
Period   01/01/1851-31/03/1851
Location   Belfast, Ireland
The National Archives reference   WO 12/4371

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 23 September 17 11:27 BST (UK)

This is interesting same reg but no service number mentioned.

James McGowan
Regiment   27th Foot
Pension year   1852
Return year   Feb 1853
Series   Wo 22 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Returns Of Payment Of Army And Other Pensions 1842-1883
Copyright The National Archives
Archive reference   WO 22/Piece number   116
Piece description   Wales, East.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Wales - covers the Monmouth, Newport area.

Cas

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Mary Crane on Saturday 23 September 17 11:59 BST (UK)

Many thanks Cas and Jebber.  That's brilliant.

I'm very grateful.

Cheers
Mary

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 23 September 17 12:06 BST (UK)

Would be easier to have a month sub with F M P to veiw originals than pay to download all via NA if interested it's your James.

Or a free 2week trial, don't forget to untick renew sub if you do.

Regards

Cas

Title: Re: St Woolos Army Barracks, Newport Mon.
Post by: Mary Crane on Sunday 24 September 17 02:32 BST (UK)

Thanks