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Title: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: moonshadow670 on Saturday 23 September 17 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi I'm looking for information on John Martin b abt  1856 who lived in the Maesteg area; I believe he married Mary CUDE abt 1878-90. Any information appreciated.
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: giggsycat on Saturday 23 September 17 20:13 BST (UK)
Hi

Possible marriage for those names on FreeBMD.

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Mar 1879   
CUDE    Mary        Neath    11a   565     ***
MARTIN    John        Neath    11a   565     ***
THOMAS    George        Neath    11a   565    
WILLIAMS    Jane                Neath    11a   565


Giggsy
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: giggsycat on Saturday 23 September 17 20:19 BST (UK)
Found some possible children on the GRO Index.

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:       
MARTIN, ELIZABETH       CUDE     Order
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in NEATH  Volume 11A  Page 563

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:       
MARTIN, SARAH       CUDE     Order
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in OF NEATH  Volume 11A  Page 686

There may be others (I only had a quick look).

Have you found them on any census please?

Giggsy
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: Deirdre784 on Saturday 23 September 17 21:49 BST (UK)
Their daughter Sarah Martin, born 1888, living with her grandparents, James and Sarah Cude in Neath in 1901.
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 23 September 17 21:58 BST (UK)
Hi all, possibly them in 1881 census:-

John Martin 27 occ Engine Driver
Mary 20
Elizabeth 1
All born Cwmavon
Residing Neath
Census Ref RG11/5337/57/3
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 23 September 17 22:32 BST (UK)
Hi again in 1891 census:-

John MARTINS 35 occ Colliery Haulier b Pembrokeshire?
Mary 29 b Devon
Elizabeth 11 b Cwmavon
Robert J 5 b Maesteg
Sarah 3 b Cwmavon
James 10 months b Cwmavon
Residing at Bridgend Road, Cwmdu
Census Ref RG12/4449/108/51

In 1901 additional children:-

Mary E 9
George W 6
Benjamin J 4
All born Maesteg
Residing at 10, Shoemakers Row, Maesteg
Census Ref RG13/5040/146/40

John Martin was born in Rosemarket, Pembrokeshire c 1856 in 1911, so in 1871 with parents James 55 b Devon, Grace 52 b Devon, Richard 18 b Rosemarket, John 16 Rosemarket, Sarah 13 b Cwmavon
Residing at Pwllyglaw, Michaelstone Super Avon
Census Ref RG10/5426/68/38
Same address in 1861 Census Ref RG09/4083/70/36

The Maiden name for Grace was OULD
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 24 September 17 12:03 BST (UK)
There is a Tree on Anc for them;
They have James/Graces Marriage as 12 May 1837 - East Allington, Devon
There is also a photo of James.

1851 they Family is in Gloucestershire;
James Martin   33
Grace Martin   32
George Martin   11
Robert Martin   6
William Martin   4
James Martin   3 Mo
Emma Cambry   18
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: moonshadow670 on Sunday 24 September 17 19:50 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 24 September 17 20:08 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone

So in a similar vein to the George Best thread, what is your relationship to any of the above?

OK recall another of your threads re Alice Maud Mary Stephens, where the Best family came into the equation, but cannot recall the Martin's?
Keyboard86

PS are you unable to obtain any census information at all, hopefully you can alleviate my fears, that we are doing all the research for you?
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: moonshadow670 on Tuesday 26 September 17 19:53 BST (UK)
Keyboard86
"PS are you unable to obtain any census information at all, hopefully you can alleviate my fears, that we are doing all the research for you?"

I recently joined Rootschat and have only posted a few topics (compared to your posts), and find the tone of your post above to be uncalled for. Yes I am on the internet and been on FindMyPast and Ancestry over the years. In one of my earlier posts I said that I was helping a friend with his family tree. There is one particular branch of that tree causing confusion which is why I posted them on Rootschat-  I didn't expect Big Brother treatment. 
George Best is Alice Maud's gt grandfather and she married John Martin.

Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 26 September 17 20:35 BST (UK)
 :) Sorry if you took any offence, all I asked was, are you unable to obtain any census information?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: John Martin b abt 1856
Post by: moonshadow670 on Wednesday 27 September 17 19:48 BST (UK)
Correction: Alice Maud Stephens married Benjamin John Martin on the 24th Dec 1919; Alice was an 18years old spinster and Benjamin was 23yrs old.  John Martin was his father and he married Mary Cude on the 2nd March 1879.  John Martin's father was James Martin; Mary Cude's father was James Cude.