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Title: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Sunday 24 September 17 18:14 BST (UK)
John and Ellenor (various spellings) SNELL had at least 7 children, all baptized in Ashreigny between 1690 and 1704. The only marriage I've been able to find is

20 Jul 1685   John SNELL and Elenor GRIGG   St David, Exeter

In the light of the time between this marriage and the earliest baptism (3 Aug 1690), and also the distance between Exeter and Ashreigny I'm a bit reluctant to accept that these are my ancestors.

Does anyone know of any other marriage(s) which might be a better bet?
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: DOB7 on Thursday 12 October 17 13:32 BST (UK)
Another way to look at this is were John & Elinor of Exeter baptising any children there 1685-1695?
A Mary SNELL was bapt to a John in 1692, Elizabeth in 1694, Will in 1696 all at Exeter St David; a Benjamin was bap at Exeter St Mary Major in 1695. More convincingly, an Elenor SNELL, wife of John was buried at Exeter 5 Dec 1710 Exeter St David. 'Your' Eleanor appears to have been buried at Ashreigney 20 Nov 1725.
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: emeltom on Thursday 12 October 17 19:05 BST (UK)
The only other marriage I can find which ia remote possibility is

John Snel and Helene Loveband 9th Sep 2689 in Alverdiscott

According to the image of the register he was from the Parish of St Giles and she was from Yearncombe.

Alverdiscott is about 10 km from Ashreigny.

Emeltom
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 19:33 BST (UK)
Hi DOB7,

Thanks for all that work. You've certainly proved that the Exeter SNELL family is not 'mine', for which I'm most grateful. 'My' John SNELL and Elinor almost certainly were born and married in or near Ashreigny ( or should that be Ashreigney?). I can't find John in Ashreigny, but I have found some John's nearby viz:-

19 Dec 1663 John to John & Thomsen in St Giles-in-the-Wood (6.4 miles)

17 Apr 1666 John to Anthony & Joane in Atherington (6.5 miles)
06 Dec 1669 John to     do           do            do

My target date was 1670, based on John's earliest child and probable marriage, so I'll shift my focus and see what I can find in these nearby parishes.

Again, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 19:52 BST (UK)
Hi emeltom,

I think that you've found the marriage I need. My target date was 1690, so what you've got is spot-on and the bride's name is an excellent match, and not very common.

As the groom was from St Giles, it looks as if I've already found him and, thanks to you, I now know where to look for the bride.

Very many thanks
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: DOB7 on Thursday 12 October 17 19:59 BST (UK)
To add to that -  I don't think they were known in Ashreigney because the first baptism in 1690 leaves the wife's name blank as if the minister didn't know it. The John son of John & Thomsen in St Giles seems likely given that he then named one of his children Thamzen.
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 20:20 BST (UK)
Agreed. It looks as if that little root is now sorted.

Many thanks to you both
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 20:28 BST (UK)
Hi DOB7

I notice you have LILLICRAP on your list of interests. I have a couple of links around Okehampton from 1718 to 1768. might there be a fit?
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: DOB7 on Thursday 12 October 17 20:31 BST (UK)
I probably have details of them as I have pretty much conducted a one-name study.
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 21:06 BST (UK)
I have:-

Richard LILLICRAP b c1718, m Mary SPRAGUE 27 Apr 1739 in Okehampton

their daughter

Petronel LILLYCRAP bap 12 Mar 1748 in Hatherleigh, m John KNIGHT 9 May 1768 in Okehampton

Regards

George
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: DOB7 on Thursday 12 October 17 21:16 BST (UK)
I cannot locate anything on Richard I am afraid.
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Thursday 12 October 17 23:39 BST (UK)
Never mind. Just a couple of names to add to your study!

George
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Friday 13 October 17 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi emeltom

I can't find Yearncombe, but I have found Yarnscombe. Do you think that the register entry for Helene LOVEBAND has been mis-spelled?
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: emeltom on Friday 13 October 17 16:51 BST (UK)
That's how it was spelt when I found it but it wouldn't surprise me if it should have been Yarnscombe. People in those days weren't the best at spelling and they wrote what they heard and if you take broad accents into account anything  could be written down!

Emeltom
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: garlands on Friday 13 October 17 17:29 BST (UK)
Thanks. As you say, it must have been a mis-spelling and/or mis-hearing of Yarnscombe. Certainly, there is a baptism of Ellen LOVEBAND in Yarnscombe in 1660 to Matthew and Jane.

George
Title: Re: John SNELL
Post by: emeltom on Friday 13 October 17 18:33 BST (UK)
Looking very promising.

Emeltom