RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: wrjones on Monday 25 September 17 22:31 BST (UK)

Title: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: wrjones on Monday 25 September 17 22:31 BST (UK)
I've taken an interest in the recent death of a Robert Cope aged 40 in Stoke-on-Trent.Apparently the Coroner is looking for info as there is no straightforward next of kin.Apparently he was an only child and as I've found out his father was too.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 September 17 23:20 BST (UK)
What about his mother?

Was Robert ever married?  Any children etc
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 September 17 23:25 BST (UK)
Looks like his parents married in 1959 but Robert only born 1977
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: chempat on Monday 25 September 17 23:28 BST (UK)
Just about to post that, interesting.

Have both his parents died?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 September 17 23:32 BST (UK)
Even if his mother is dead - she may have had siblings who also had children.  If the siblings are all deceased - any estate would pass to their children
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: wrjones on Monday 25 September 17 23:45 BST (UK)
It appears both his parents are dead also.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: wrjones on Monday 25 September 17 23:47 BST (UK)
It appears his father was born in 1930 and also was an only child.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 September 17 23:53 BST (UK)
Quote
What about his mother?

Quote
Even if his mother is dead - she may have had siblings who also had children.  If the siblings are all deceased - any estate would pass to their children

Have you researched his mother?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: chempat on Monday 25 September 17 23:53 BST (UK)
Mother born 1937(probably) - so only 80.  Died when and where?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 September 17 23:57 BST (UK)
Isn't this a job for the Coroners office?  They advertise in the press for relatives etc and have a procedure for establishing next of kin if there is an estate. 

Is there an estate in this case?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 26 September 17 00:01 BST (UK)
I became interested after seeing an appeal by Staffordshire Police wanting people to contect the Coroner's office.It doesn't contain much detail at all.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: groom on Tuesday 26 September 17 00:08 BST (UK)
Sounds as if he died alone and they are looking for relatives to inform them of the death and perhaps pay for the funeral?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 26 September 17 00:13 BST (UK)
Looking at the Staffs Police site somebody has posted a reply asking about any known employment history.  Robert died 19th Sept
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 26 September 17 01:25 BST (UK)
If his mother is the Margaret E. Birks born 1937 (comments on Staffordshire Police post on FB show quite a few people knew him, that both parents dead, and one is from a lady who says she went out with him some 20 years ago and that he had an older adopted brother named Mark!) then she could have been the daughter of 2 possible couples - Albert Birks and Ellen Baker married 1916 or Harry Birks and Ethel Baker married 1935. 

There are trees for both couples on Ancestry - the older couple had 5 children, the youngest of whom was a daughter and the younger couple are shown to have had 4 daughters - so, either way, Robert's mother appears to have had siblings.

Annette
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: Mumpy on Saturday 21 October 17 02:18 BST (UK)
Dear all I have today received a letter from Stoke on Trent council I am a cousin of Robert. Robert was an only child his mother was Margaret his father was Ron both are deceased as is Ron s sister Who was Millicent  Ron was not an only child  and Robert has four cousins who are still alive from his aunties side of which none of them new about his death until notified and don't even know the circumstances of his early death He did not have a brother called Mark who was adopted  he was an only child who Margaret had late in life
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: groom on Saturday 21 October 17 09:12 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat. It’s good to know that relatives have been found, just a pity it is in such sad circumstances.
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: Mumpy on Saturday 21 October 17 16:19 BST (UK)
I would also like to add that Ron and Millicent also had another brother called Harry who has also passed away some time ago
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: Mumpy on Saturday 21 October 17 16:20 BST (UK)
I would also like to add that Ron and Millicent also had another brother called Harry who has also passed away some time ago
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: chempat on Saturday 21 October 17 17:20 BST (UK)
Mumpy,

Thanks for updating us on the relatives.

It is interesting that so much false information was out there, starting with his Father being an only child when he had 2 siblings.

Just because I am nosy, were Ron, Millicent and Harry's parents Richard and Hilda?
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: JJen on Saturday 21 October 17 18:19 BST (UK)
Link to reply

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781029.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Robert Cope Recent Death.
Post by: Mumpy on Saturday 21 October 17 20:11 BST (UK)
Sorry it appears I have posted on my own page rather than replying on here     Yes Ron Millicent and Harry were the children of Richard and Hilda May cope  all are deceased and all except Harry are buried in Fenton cemetery along with one of his aunties who's name is pat