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According to the IGI, Thomas RANDELL or BENNETT was bap. at Exeter St Sidwell on 28 Aug 1664. Could someone please check this for me? Thanks
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Just states
Thomas Randell Or Bennett
Baptism date 28 Aug 1664
Place Exeter, Devon
Father Thomas Randell Or Bennett
No mother listed.
Cas
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Many thanks. I must admit I was hoping for more - e.g. was the he born out of wedlock and was RANDELL the mother's name? I was also hoping that the ambiguity of the father's name would be clarified. I've come across changes of surname before, but nothing like this. Any thoughts?
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Many thanks. I must admit I was hoping for more - e.g. was the he born out of wedlock and was RANDELL the mother's name? I was also hoping that the ambiguity of the father's name would be clarified. I've come across changes of surname before, but nothing like this. Any thoughts?
I would think it is highly likely that the child is illegitimate or in the timeframe baseborn. Parent surnames as named but no guess to which is which.
Cas
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I'll see if I can find a later marriage between a RANDELL and a BENNETT.
Thanks for you efforts
George
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Actually the entry reads:
Thomas the sonne of Thomas Randell als Bennett.
The "als" has a line above, a standard abbreviated form of "alias". So there is no suggestion that the younger Thomas was illegitimate. It is possible the father was, but there were other reasons why people had two surnames. Moreover, families often continued to use both for several generations, so the first "Randell alias Bennett" could be even further back.
David
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David,
Thanks for that. I shall try and digest your info later today and come back to you
George
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David
Many thanks for seeking-out the original record for me.
I'd been deeply immersed in another root, so I've had to re-familiarise myself with this one.
For me, it runs:-
Elizabeth BENNETT bap 27 Oct 1756 in Stoke Damerel
her father William BENNETT bap 6 Mar 1721 in Charles the Martyr
his father William BENNETT bap 23 Jan 1682/3 in Moretonhampstead
his father Thomas ??????? bap 28 Aug 1664 in St Sidwell, Exeter
his father Thomas RANDELL alias BENNETT (ca 1640 somewhere!)
As the original gives precedence to RANDELL, I guess that I shall have to change my root to that name from 1664 backwards, and see if I can follow it any further.
Thanks again for your help.
George
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In one parish I was looking at recently there were entries for "Evans alias Morris" and for "Morris alias Evans". So I don't think you can read much into the order of the names.
(Have you ruled out the Thomas Bennett baptised in Moretonhampstead in 1662 fot the father of William?)
David
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No, hadn't found him. Can you give me full details, please?
George
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At Moretonhamstead there's
Thomas son of Nicholas Bennett baptised 11 Mar 1659 and
Thomas son of Nicholas Bennett baptised 25 Sep 1662
The first appears to have been buried 30 Oct 1660.
The second is rather young to have a child in 1681, but Thomas Randall alias Bennett would be even younger.
However, how sure are you that the 1681 William in Moretonhampstead is the one you want?. Note that the baptism of William Bennett on 6 Mar 1721 was recorded at Charles in North Devon, not Charles the Martyr in Plymouth. Nearly as far from Stoke Dameral as you can get without leaving the county.
David
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David,
You raise several interesting points. I shall re-examine what I have and come back to you
George
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David,
Sorry to have been so long coming back to you. I've been trying to check my data but I'm having trouble locating my sources. My records say that I used the IGI but I can't find what I had originally; I don't know if it's me or the IGI that's at fault. Anyway, I'll keep trying.
George
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David,
I think that you've shot me down in flames! All my references to the BENNET family are to the parish of Charles. Because Elizabeth BENNETT was bap in Stoke Damerel, and her parents William BENNETT & Elizabeth DYER married in Stoke Damerel on 30 Sep 1747 (I have a copy from the parish register), I assumed that the BENNETTs I found in Charles were from Charles the Martyr. So, I'm now starting to hunt for them again.
George