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Title: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Wednesday 27 September 17 04:18 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm looking to see if anyone can help fill in some information on the Murtagh family from Faughalstown.  Ann Murtagh (my great grandmother) was born around 1859 and died in June 1947.  She was mother to Kate and Matt Carrigy which we received great help with in this chat; http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=736235.msg5820086#msg5820086

And Ann is also mother to the Carrigys in this thread; http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=131435.msg6331129#msg6331129

While I can find info on Murtaghs in and around Faughalstown, I can't confirm who Ann's parents and siblings were.  I tentatively have her parents as William and Elizabeth.  Ann's husband was Peter Carrigy b. 1848, d. 1933.

Any help would be much appreciated as always.
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 27 September 17 08:01 BST (UK)
I see there are no parents names on the marriage
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635124#page/15/mode/1up
First one in 1881
Not getting a result for a civil marriage cert....
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Thursday 28 September 17 03:46 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Sinann.  This one has me stumped.  Griffiths lists Murtaghs as tenants in Faughalstown but can't find a record to tie Ann in at all.
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: ciderdrinker on Thursday 28 September 17 11:56 BST (UK)
Hi
Have you tried the  parish  Mayne for baptisms which includes Faughalstown

Anne Murtogh d of William and Ann Murtogh 4 Sep 1861
Godfather Dan Rutherford and ---
It is the same parish she married in.
Her entry is quite crumpled and her mother's maiden name is illegible.

There's a Bridget 11.2.1871 d of william Murtagh and Anne Lynch of Coole
Mary 21.8.1863,Catherine 3.3.1866,Edward 20.7.1868,Elizebeth 7.10.1873,William 30.3.1876

They married 8.3.1859 wit Pat Donnely and Mary Murtagh

I'm sorry I don't  know the area well enough to know if Coole is near Faughalstown.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 28 September 17 15:46 BST (UK)
Had a look at Murtagh deaths from 1891 to see if a Carrigy relation was the informant on any but no joy.
Might be worth trying again when older death cert images come online.
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 28 September 17 17:37 BST (UK)
When you look at the CARRIGY family baptisms in Coole Parish, there are a few sponsors named MURTAGH/MURTHA
LINK (http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0919) to Parish Records

Jul 23 1882; Patrick Joseph; Sponsors: Dermod CARRIGY & Mary FAGAN
Aug 14 1883; Brigid Mary; Sponsors: Brian RODEN
Jan 16 1885; Bernard; Sponsors: Edward SMYTH & Julia MURTHA
Jul 25 1886; Mary Anne; Sponsors: Edward & Bridget FARRELLY
Jul 01 1888; Mathew; Sponsors: William MURTAGH & Anne FAGAN
Jun 08 1890; Catherine; Sponsors: John REILLY & Elizabeth MURTAGH
Jan 24 1892; John; Sponsors: James CASSIDY & Margaret MURTAGH
Sep 16 1894; Mary Jane; Sponsors: Thomas WARD & Bridget CARIGY
Jun 17 1897; Elizabeth; Sponsors: Bernard CARRIGY & Mary FAGAN
Jul 23 1899 ; Joseph; Sponsors: Bridget CARRIGY & Anne CARRIGY
c1901; Julia - not online
c1904; Thomas Anthony - not online
c1906; Christina - not online

There are several possibilities for Ann's birth in Coole Parish
bap. Dec 12 1859 to Willam & Anne MURTAGH
bap. Apr 11 1860 to Mathew MURTAGH & Elizabeth PLUNKETT
bap. Aug 5 1860 to Darby & Anne MURTAGH
bap. Sep 04 1861 to William MURTAGH & Anne LYNCH

and based on naming patterns in Mount Nugent Parish
bap. Oct 04 1857 to Patrick & Jane SMYTH
noting that there is a sponsor named Edward SMYTH

This may or may not help but at least gives additional names to work with that are most likely related
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Friday 29 September 17 04:03 BST (UK)
Thanks for these insights Sinnan, ciderdrinker and my Luck!, great leads for me to work from.  Much appreciated, lets see they they take me...
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: Maggsie on Friday 29 September 17 11:49 BST (UK)
Hi, I searched with just Murtagh and Faughalstown and saw a few births.
Peter
James
No Ann listed
Parents Matthew  (Matt) Murtagh and Ann Ward.
and then a private tree is listed with the Carrigy's. (this must have the same names listed)
Maggsie
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Sunday 08 October 17 12:25 BST (UK)
I have an update for this thread:

Ann Carrigy (née Maurtagh) parents were Matthew Murtagh and Elizabeth (Bessie) Plunkett (b. ~1818)

Ann had three sisters; Margaret Murtagh (b. 1857), Julia Thornton (b.1863), Rose M Kennedy. 

I've not been able to identify Rose's husband yet if anyone can help out there.

And I've not been able to identify Elizabeth (Bessie) Plunkett's family yet.
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: myluck! on Sunday 08 October 17 15:17 BST (UK)
Update appreciated splask

This is a LINK (http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635123#page/19/mode/1up) to Ann's baptism (bottom right)
It is faded and difficult to read but PLUNKETT seems to be added and beneath the record noted "alias Esther Clinton alias Plunkett"
 
There is a baptism for:
Catherine on Jan 09 1855
Margaret on Jul 26 1857
Julia on Jan 10 1862 (as Judith)

I don't see a baptism for Rose
I wonder was Catherine and Rose the same person as a
Catherine MURTAGH married Patrick KENNEDY on Jul 19 1880 in Mayne - LINK (http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635124#page/15/mode/1up)
Unfortunately their parents names were not recorded

a Julia MURTAGH m James THORNTON Jan 26 1892 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10625/5871196.pdf)
If you are sure that she is correct; this is the THORNTON family in 1901 on the census living with her, was her widowed mother Elizabeth - LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Kinturk/Townparks___Castlepollard/1777370/)

Death of Elizabeth MURTAGH on Nov 12 1903 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05645/4588637.pdf)
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Sunday 08 October 17 15:30 BST (UK)
This is really helpful myluck, thank you.  I'll research the immigration records for Catherine going to the US.
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: myluck! on Sunday 08 October 17 15:57 BST (UK)
Took a quick look
Catherine was still in Ireland in 1911

On 1901 census at
LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Hiltown/Ballycomoyle/1777018/) - with husband Patrick and eight children

On 1911 census at 13 in Ballycomoyle (Hilltown, Westmeath)
LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Hilltown/Ballycomoyle/879825/) - a widow with four children

Patrick KENNEDY died on Mar 07 1910 aged 76 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05435/4519751.pdf) last record # 26

The KENNEDY children's births are on irishgenealogy.ie
Sep 17 1881 James
Apr 15 1882 Mathew
Dec 12 1884 Mary (shown on census as Mary Anne)
Aug 12 1886 Kate
Jan 27 1890 Margaret
Sep 07 1892 Michael
Oct 05 1894 Patrick
Aug 05 1897 Rose (shown on census as Rosanna)
plus one further child that died before 1911 and probably 1901
all records show mother as Catherine or Kate
but note that the youngest child was Rose/Rosanna

Catherine died on Mar 10 1933 - LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1933/04865/4315133.pdf)
Title: Re: Murtaghs of Faughalstown
Post by: splask on Monday 09 October 17 00:09 BST (UK)
Brilliant, thanks again myluck.