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Title: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Friday 29 September 17 18:50 BST (UK)
Hello

I hope someone might be able to help.

I am looking for Ann Stephens born around 1843-1846, Clydach wife of Joseph Edmunds (of Caerbiggin, Five Roads, Llanelly) 1871 and earlier. On her marriage certificate in 1875 both are living at Vardre, Clydach, her age is given as 29. Her father is listed as David Stephens farm labourer. In 1881 and later they live in  Llanwrtyd, Breconshire. I can trace Joseph back but not Ann

Thank you
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 20:19 BST (UK)
Is it possible she was a little younger?

There is am Ann Stephen,father David in 1841 at Llangyfelach
 HO107 1419/6/6/6

I think I have the same Ann in the other censuses.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 20:22 BST (UK)
Other censuses:-

1851 HO107 2465/57/10 (still with family)

1861  RG09 4085/4/3 (Dairy Maid)

!871  RG10 5442/11/17 (as Ann Stephens)

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 29 September 17 20:26 BST (UK)
Have you looked on Family search.  1841-1911 available

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Friday 29 September 17 20:37 BST (UK)
Quote from: despair on Friday 29 September 17 20:19 BST (UK)
Is it possible she was a little younger?

There is am Ann Stephen,father David in 1841 at Llangyfelach
 HO107 1419/6/6/6

I think I have the same Ann in the other censuses.

Regards
Roger
Quote from: despair on Friday 29 September 17 20:22 BST (UK)
Other censuses:-

1851 HO107 2465/57/10 (still with family)

1861  RG09 4085/4/3 (Dairy Maid)

!871  RG10 5442/11/17 (as Ann Stephens)

Regards
Roger

A possibility. Her age does seem to vary. In 1875 born 1846 according to marriage certificate. In 1881 born 1843 according to census. Where does it say she was born in 1871?
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 20:48 BST (UK)
Just says Glamorgan,I'm afraid,but working in Clydach.
Regards
Roger

Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 21:05 BST (UK)
I know it's not proof,just self consistency,but GRO gives mmn Lewis for the 1840 birth.There is an 1833 marriage of David Stephen to Anne Lewis(as per census) at Llangyfelach.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Friday 29 September 17 21:28 BST (UK)
Thanks despair for all your help. It does seem the most likely match at the moment
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 21:56 BST (UK)
I see that in two of the last three censuses she is given as born 1840.I'll see what age is given at death.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: despair on Friday 29 September 17 21:59 BST (UK)
There is a possible in Builth registration district aged 90 in 1930,which would match.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Friday 29 September 17 22:09 BST (UK)
Quote from: despair on Friday 29 September 17 21:56 BST (UK)
I see that in two of the last three censuses she is given as born 1840.I'll see what age is given at death.

Regards
Roger

Good spot. Perhaps she finally admitted to Joseph she wasn't as young as he thought she was when he married her!
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Friday 29 September 17 22:11 BST (UK)
Quote from: despair on Friday 29 September 17 21:59 BST (UK)
There is a possible in Builth registration district aged 90 in 1930,which would match.

Regards
Roger

Thanks. Joseph's death is also registered in Builth in 1906 which matches
Title: Re: Ann Stephens 1871 and earlier
Post by: roycymru on Saturday 30 September 17 14:55 BST (UK)
Quote from: CaroleW on Friday 29 September 17 20:26 BST (UK)
Have you looked on Family search.  1841-1911 available

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1&region=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

Hello, forgot to say thanks for this. Didn't realise these were available, especially useful as my subscription to Ancestry has expired. Do you know if their census records are complete?