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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Freya Ellingsen on Saturday 30 September 17 16:01 BST (UK)
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I am having trouble with the following: unable to find further info of divorce, or the birth of a child,also no further info on Norma😬?
Norma Lorraine Goldie Elllngsen, 26. v Albert Conrad Ellingsen, 31. Marriage, 1942. Issue, adultery. One child. The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956)
Friday 20 June 1947
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Do you think their childs name may be mentioned on his army or his probate record :-\
sorry don't have full access to look at the record
Albert Conrad Ellingsen born 21st April 1916 Armadale Victoria
enlistment place Puckapunyal Victoria
service number VX112984
Series B883: Army, 2nd Al F
next of kin Norma
Albert Conrad Ellingsen
Death Date: 21 Dec 1963
Death Place: South Yarra
Occupation: Machine Operator
Grant Date: 18 Mar 1964
Grant: A
Probate File Number: 607/700
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No I cannot see a child named.
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1943 Fawkner Armadale Australian Electoral Rolls
Albert Conrad Ellingsen address 23 Airlie Av.,
Normal Lorraine Ellingsen address 44a Armadale St., operator
A G Ellingsen (male) 33 Airlie Av., carpenter
G R Ellingsen (female) 33 Airlie Av., home duties – she is then with
Albert Conrad Ellinsen, machinist and E I Ellingsen (female) Address 33 Airlie Av.
in 1954 Higgin Armadale
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1949 Higgins Armadale ER
Albert, & G R Ellingsen living 33 Airlie Av.
Norma Lorraine Ellingsen living 44a Airlie Armadale st., operator - edit wrong street name
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1943 Fawkner Armadale Australian Electoral Rolls
Normal Lorraine Ellingsen address 44a Armadale St., operator
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1949 Higgins Armadale ER
Albert, & G R Ellingsen living 33 Airlie Av.
Norma Lorraine Ellingsen living 44a Armadale st., operator
I don't know if this is same person could Norma have remarried ???
US Obituary Collection 1930 – 2017
Norma Lorraine Adamson
And also listed under that name on 1949 ER Higgins Armadale
Norma Lorraine Adamson 44a Armadale St., SE3, machinist
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Do you know the name of Albert's parents?
I'm guessing that A G & G R Ellingsen are Albert Conrad's parents (I did not named them as I wasn't sure but they appear to be on 1919 ER together
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Yes that is his parents Albert George Ellingsen and his wife Gertrude Ruby nee Pontin
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So she was using Adamson in 1949 /Ellingsen a bit confusing?
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A note of caution....the child is possibly living.
So she was using Adamson in 1949 /Ellingsen a bit confusing?
No really if she remarried and as required by law, enrolled to vote with her new name.
Why don't you buy the 1963 death certificate?
You could also obtain a copy of the probate file from PROV.
https://www.prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
The bride's maiden name was YOUNGBERG and also GOLDIE when she married in 1942. Have a search on the PROV index above for YOUNGBERG and you will see a number of files with the names YOUNGBERG-GOLDIE known as GOLDIE
Please type surnames in uppercase.
There is a death in 2011 for a woman of the name you have typed. Have a look on Herald Sun Tributes website. No way of knowing if it is you person of interest though.
Cando
Edit to add comment.
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I am fairly sure this is the correct person.
Norma Lorraine ADAMSON first appears on the Vic Electoral Roll as stated in 1949.
She and Frederick George ADAMSON lived in the Mt WAVERLY district from the 1960's.
Details can be provided.
Norma died in 2011 and was cremated at Springvale.
The cremated remains have been scattered
Date of Birth 1 August 1920
Date of Death 29 May 2011
Date of Service 7 June 2011
Funeral Director Tobin Brothers - Burwood East
Age 90
Funeral Notice
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2964203/view?random=1506812419068
Death notice Norma
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2965195/view?random=1506812453581?random=1506812454282?random=1506812455259
Death notice of Fred George. He seems to have been known as Mick
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2591196/view?random=1506812743612
The names of children are within these notices.
Please do not publish them here.
Sue
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To support Cando's comment, there is no direct evidence thaat this woman is one in the same as your person of interest.
Only a number of coincidental factors.
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From My Heritage:
Oscar Keith Goldie Dfc
Birth: Day Month 1916
Death: 2009
Siblings: Norma Lorraine Adamson (born Goldie (Youngberg)
There is also a marriage for a possible sister of the same name mentioned in the death notice provided by Sue.
1942 1911 GOLDIE-YOUNGBERG Oscar Keith to STEVENS Edith Rose
Jamjar
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Keith's birth - 1916 8593 YOUNGBERG Oscar Keith Goldie parents Oscar Fredk Goldie and Alice Maud (Smith)
Alice Maud's death - 1970 5477 YOUNGBERG Alice Maude parents SMITH Daniel and Mary Jane (Proud)
Springvale Botanical Cemetery Youngberg Goldie Alice Maude Cremated 23-2-1970 The cremated remains have been scattered
Oscar Frederick death: 1982 26251 GOLDIE Oscar Frederick parents GOLDIE Frederick and Annie (Crowle)
Springvale Botanical Cemetery Goldie Oscar Frederick Cremated 4-11-1982 The cremated remains have been scattered
Note, from PROV: Oscar Frederick GOLDIE. Date of grant: 26 April 1983; Alternative name: Oscar Frederick GOLDIE YOUNGBERG; Date of death: 02 Nov 1982; Occupation: Rtd; Residence: Glen Waverley., Oscar Frederick Goldie YOUNGBERG. Date of grant: 26 Apr 1983
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Links so you can search yourself...I try to post links for any research I find. Helps you to help yourself and often other researchers ;D
Vic bdm's
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
Springvale Botanical Cemetery
http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php
And again the Wills and Admon Index at PROV -
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
Herald Sun Tributes
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/
Cando
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Thanks all. On Albert, Conrad Ellingsen's dc of 1963 a son I will follow up [deleted]....
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Thanks all. On Albert, Conrad Ellingsen's dc of 1963 a son****** I will follow up [deleted]....
Please remove the son's name in case he is still living. Against Rootschat policy to name possible living people.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi there,
You just need to use the modify button in the particular post, and then simply backspace over the names.
JM
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Funeral Notice
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2964203/view?random=1506812419068
Death notice Norma
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2965195/view?random=1506812453581?random=1506812454282?random=1506812455259
Death notice of Fred George. He seems to have been known as Mick
http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/archivenotice/2591196/view?random=1506812743612
The names of children are within these notices.
Please do not publish them here.
Sue
Nugent,
You have just done what I specifically asked you not to do!
As a longstanding member of R'chat, I would have thought you would be aware of guidelines regarding living people
I will report to a moderator for EDITl.
Sue