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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Krazykat87 on Monday 09 October 17 04:22 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I would like some advice on how to find my deceased great uncle (grandads brother)
He was born and raised in the Huddersfield/Holmfirth area and then went to Oz.
Only thing I no about him is his name and date of birth.
Norman wibberley born between July and sept 1930
Also got noted he had one daughter but could be more
So far grandad has not managed to remember anything else sadly so I’m turning to you guys to get some tips.
Thank you
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www.naa.gov.au
WIBBERLEY Norman born 22 June 1930; travelled per STRATHAIRD departing Tilbury on 19 November 1959 under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30140181&S=25
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It is against the policy of rootschat to find living people and it is possible he is still living so I suggest removing his personal details.
You state he is deceased. Where and when did he die?
Cando
Edit to add question
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OP's post indicates person is deceased.
Hi everyone,
I would like some advice on how to find my deceased great uncle (grandads brother)
He was born and raised in the Huddersfield/Holmfirth area and then went to Oz.
Only thing I no about him is his name and date of birth.
Norman wibberley born between July and sept 1930
Also got noted he had one daughter but could be more
So far grandad has not managed to remember anything else sadly so I’m turning to you guys to get some tips.
Thank you
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What is your evidence for saying he is deceased? How do you know that?
Some more details from immigration voyage per STRATHAIRD.
Norman WIBBERLEY. To Sydney.
DOB 22/6/1930
Single
Last Address, 27 Oatland Netherlong, Holmgarth, Huddersfield.
Motor Driver. Passport issued Uk.
Last permanent residence England
Intended permanent residence, Australia
Sue
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checked my NSW resources and as yet have nothing to indicate he is no longer living.
JM
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Do you know his parents' names? Many Australian indexes include parent names and perhaps he changed his own forename - no-one so far has found anything about a Norman WIBBERLEY.
Edit to add - I see from free BMD that his mother's surname was FIELD, but some indexes only show the parents' first names.
Judith
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Do you know his parents' names? Many Australian indexes include parent names and perhaps he changed his own forename - no-one so far has found anything about a Norman WIBBERLEY.
Edit to add - I see from free BMD that his mother's surname was FIELD, but some indexes only show the parents' first names.
Judith
See related thread: parents likely to be Robert Wibberley and Nellie Field
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=780327.msg6345707
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I see that there is a Norman Wibberley listed in Queensland electoral rolls (Merthyr/New Farm in the Brisbane area) in the late 1970s up to at least 1980.
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And the occupation of the chap in Brisbane is "driver", which is the occupation given in the immigration record. There are no others of that surname listed at te same address in the Electoral rolls.
There are 9 entries in the phone book for WIBBERLEY in Qld, but none with his initial. The index is not comprehensive as people are not always listed. However, perhaps a letter to each maybe useful.
https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential
Judith
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What is your evidence for saying he is deceased? How do you know that
Sue
I would really like to hear from Krazykat87, our OP with persuasive evidence this chap is deceased.
Sue
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I know he is dead because my grandad told me so. There is only him and his youngest sister left alive.
He just couldn’t remember where he went to live etc so I had no base to do a search as I tried putting what I knew in to ancestry and got nothing
My grandad is of complete sound mind but has never been one for details and dates. That was my mans job but she isn’t around to ask now
His mum was Nellie field and father Robert wibberley
EDITED TO ADD: My mum and gran ( dead now but i have the few notes i took) ,uncle and sister have also confirmed he died over there
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What is your evidence for saying he is deceased? How do you know that?
Some more details from immigration voyage per STRATHAIRD.
Norman WIBBERLEY. To Sydney.
DOB 22/6/1930
Single
Last Address, 27 Oatland Netherlong, Holmgarth, Huddersfield.
Motor Driver. Passport issued Uk.
Last permanent residence England
Intended permanent residence, Australia
Sue
This sounds like the right one. His father lived and died at 27 outlane, netherthong, holmfirth
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Hi,
The State Library of Queensland hold Commonwealth Electoral Rolls in their family history section beyond 1980, you may want to consider using the "ask a Librarian service" to check the later roles for Norman at the New Farm address that appears on the 1980 Commonwealth Roll.
1980, Division of Griffith, Sub-Division of Merthyr.
http://askslq.altarama.com/reft100.aspx?pmi=KYZyEeUVpR
The staff in that Section are very helpful and professional.
Gerry
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Thank you, il add that to my pile of to dos unless something else come up from somewhere :-)
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Hi there,
I realise your family members have told you that he is deceased, but did they say he died in Australia, and if so, did they mention which state? Or when? I have searched diligently for his death in NSW and I have not yet found anything to show he is deceased. I am sure other RChatters who have contributed to this thread have also searched using their own resources.
Gerry has suggested you contact Qld State Library and given you the link. That service is fully funded, so you will not be charged for the service.
You can check cemetery/crematorium indexes for Brisbane (capital city of the state of Queensland) here: https://graves.brisbane.qld.gov.au/
Have you checked out all the live links available at the Resources board (and its sub-boards) here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
There is a huge difference between finding an INDEX entry at an online database and actually confirming that that particular entry is for a particular person of interest, so I should mention that the Australian electoral rolls do not give a person's age, marital status, place of birth, or details about others in the household.
JM
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Several years ago now, an RChatter commenced a thread seeking some information about a relative. They explained that they had attended that person's funeral accompanying their mum. They mentioned the church, which is in the Newcastle district of NSW. The family name was unusual and rang bells for me.
You see, at that time I was regularly visiting one of my elderly relatives-in-law who were residing in an Aged Care facility in the Newcastle district.
Yes, I soon realised that that RChatter's aunty was still alive, frail but well cared for in that Aged Care facility.
The thread was pulled off the public forum.
JM
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Hi there,
I realise your family members have told you that he is deceased, but did they say he died in Australia, and if so, did they mention which state? Or when? I have searched diligently for his death in NSW and I have not yet found anything to show he is deceased. I am sure other RChatters who have contributed to this thread have also searched using their own resources.
Gerry has suggested you contact Qld State Library and given you the link. That service is fully funded, so you will not be charged for the service.
You can check cemetery/crematorium indexes for Brisbane (capital city of the state of Queensland) here: https://graves.brisbane.qld.gov.au/
Have you checked out all the live links available at the Resources board (and its sub-boards) here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
There is a huge difference between finding an INDEX entry at an online database and actually confirming that that particular entry is for a particular person of interest, so I should mention that the Australian electoral rolls do not give a person's age, marital status, place of birth, or details about others in the household.
JM
i have sent my uncle a message and i will speak to my sister again tonight. He definately died over there and that was why my grandad couldnt attend. See how i go from speaking with them. my sister and uncle only met him when they were young and because he was so far away he only really stayed in contact with his sister and my grandad
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Hi all, had confirmation today that I was correct to think Norman died in Australia. He died in August 2008. His sister passed the message through another family member. she is sure it was Brisbane that he lived and died. She is hoping to come across his old address now that she knows I am looking for his death information.
i searched ancestry again and still havent found anything sadly.
He also married over there and had a daughter.
His sister cannot remember the wifes name at the moment.
So where do i go from here do you all think?
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So Iv decided to revisit this annoying dead end of mine
No address found as yet by Norman’s sister
I am going to look in to some of the links that you guys sent but any others would be appreciated also
Kat
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Kat, if he died in Brisbane there is no record of a burial and neither of the two Brisbane crematoriums were able to find a reference to him.
Jamjar
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Just a little more detail from the electoral rolls
First entry listing him is 1977, living at 2/116 Browne St, New Farm, occ: driver. No-one else of that surname at that address. Same details 1980.
I don't see him prior to 1977 - as a British subject he would have been eligible to vote from the time of his arrival.
Can't see any mention of him on TROVE (newspapers). You may like to search again on TROVE: trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
The only other avenue I can think of is to write to those listed with that surname in Qld on the white pages telephone listings - https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential
Judith
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It’s driving me insane!
Iv just said to my sister that I may have to end up writing to all the Wibberley people over there in hopes of getting somewhere with it.
Me and my bad luck strikes again
Il go thru all the steps in all the posts so far anyway and see what happens x
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Hi,
I suggested in reply 13 that the Queensland State Library had Commonwealth Electoral Rolls later than 1980 and the Librarians in the Family History Section are very helpful, if you haven't tried that avenue as yet it might be worth a go.
Gerry
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Hi,
I suggested in reply 13 that the Queensland State Library had Commonwealth Electoral Rolls later than 1980 and the Librarians in the Family History Section are very helpful, if you haven't tried that avenue as yet it might be worth a go.
Gerry
Hi Gerry yes I’m going to give that a go as well. Hopefully can get the time at the weekend to go through everyone’s suggestions :-)