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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: notaninch on Tuesday 10 October 17 10:08 BST (UK)
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Hi
On the 16th August 1891 one of my ancestors was the ships' cook and steward on board the Daventry.
He died onboard when the ship was in the Red Sea. Rather bizarrely the cause of death was recorded as sunstroke. In the Marine Register, although he was Irish and from Waterford City it states his last known place of abode was Cardiff. Yet he does not appear in the census of Wales of 1891.
What I am looking for are details about the ship - the Daventry - what type of ship it was who owned it. Where did it start the voyage and what was its final destination and the route it followed. And why wasn't he using factor 50 sunscreen.....you'd of thought a cook of all people would know the affect of heat is dangerous
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Hi,
Possible the Daventry from West Hartlepool?
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha.php
There is a piece in the South Wales Echo dated 25th July 1891 about an engineer having his certificate suspended. It mentioned he joined the Daventry which left Hull (18th inst) on a voyage to Singapore via Cardiff. It left Cardiff on the 22nd inst.
I think the Suez canal was open by then so it probably passed thru on the way to Singapore.
Cathy
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Hi,
Possible the Daventry from West Hartlepool?
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha.php
There is a piece in the South Wales Echo dated 25th July 1891 about an engineer having his certificate suspended. It mentioned he joined the Daventry which left Hull (18th inst) on a voyage to Singapore via Cardiff. It left Cardiff on the 22nd inst.
I think the Suez canal was open by then so it probably passed thru on the way to Singapore.
Cathy
Cathy thank you so much....the CLIP database has some really useful stuff but it is thanks to you for pointing me in the right direction. One last question and I will probably intuitively know the answer. Would he be buried at sea - was that the normal protocol in such circumstances?
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Sorry, not sure about that, sounds likely to me though.
Cathy
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Sorry, not sure about that, sounds likely to me though.
Cathy
Cathy, I am struggling with the itinerary of another ship named the Peace that sailed out of Dublin. You will not believe this but four brothers and one of their sons were sailors. Four died at sea.
Thomas you already know about. It is his brother James who was aboard the Peace and was drowned at Port Said on 30th July 1878. I can't get details about this voyage or who owned it etc. He sometimes switches name he was James John and is shown as James on some manifests and John on others. The other two died in WW1 torpedoed and I have all I need about them.
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Search Welsh Newspapers on line -
http://newspapers.library.wales
For example -
South Wales Daily News, 28 July 1891
CARDIFF SAILINGS
Cleared 27 July
Singapore, Daventry ss, B, 3500 coal
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Yes,
Sailings and shipping movements were reported in the papers, good link from hanes teulu.
The SS peace appears to have foundered around August 1879 (newspaper dated 29 August 1879)
Info on the ship is in the article. James Lumley s death gives ship number as 78864
Using link above search for Whitby steamer foundered (English publications 1879)
Cathy
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Yes,
Sailings and shipping movements were reported in the papers, good link from hanes teulu.
The SS peace appears to have foundered around August 1879 (newspaper dated 29 August 1879)
Info on the ship is in the article. James Lumley s death gives ship number as 78864
Cathy
Thanks Cathy and Hanes too. Hope you are well Hanes - long time since I heard from you. I should be able to get all of what I need with your excellent pointers. I think I can close on this one. Cheers
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Best of luck with the search
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Best of luck with the search
Thanks Hanes, I'm getting there. One other person who is the brother-in-law of my great grandfather was Robert Power. My great grandfather when he married Robert's sister Annie Power lived at a farm owned by Geoffrey Power the father of Robert and Annie. The farm was in Fenor, near Tramore, County Waterford. Robert does not appear in the 1911 Irish Census but turns up in the 1911 Welsh Census. I believe he stayed in Swansea never married and died in 1957 at the age of 84 in the 4th quarter. Surely this must be him. I'm hoping there may have been an obit in the local newspaper. If there was which paper should I be looking for and how would I get access to the editions of 1957?
Name Robert Power
Event Place Swansea, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Age 38
Marital Status (Original) Single
Occupation General Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated) 1873
Birthplace Fenor, County Waterford
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Norah Flanagan Norah Flanagan
Head F 60 Dungarvan, County Waterford
Robert Power Boarder M 38 Fenor, County Waterford
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I can check out the '57 newspapers for you in Swansea archives. But won't be able to start until next week after I return from holiday.
regards
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I can check out the '57 newspapers for you in Swansea archives. But won't be able to start until next week after I return from holiday.
regards
Are you sure. I would be so grateful, if it's a problem then it is not a major issue if I don't get an answer.
Take Care
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Np problem whatsoever.
Will be in touch