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Title: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Wednesday 11 October 17 06:56 BST (UK)
Looking for the birth of Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson/Phillips/Lennon/Fussell. Frances (Fanny) was born in the colonies of Australia early 1800's or late 1799 + as per her death certificate. Frances died 1884 as Mrs James Fussell. I find her married to William James Lennon 1839 and noted as widow. Not sure if her maiden name was Wilkinson or Phillips as I have been unable to find her birth certificate or marriage to another. In the will of William James Lennon there is mention of Mrs Anne Blatchford Want living with his wife Frances. I am of the opinion this Anne is related to the early Cox family and wonder if a related connection be for Frances as well. Any help here would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 11 October 17 08:41 BST (UK)
Ibelieve that the different states have differing archives and records availability.

So an 1884 death for her. (Place?)
an 1839 marriage (Place, any witness names)?

you mention a will, again, date of the death for the will holder and place where it occurred?

you mention the Cox family in the last line, but no location or first name??
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Wednesday 11 October 17 09:14 BST (UK)
Thank you Pauline.
Sorry for the lack of info.
Frances died Sydney, NSW.
The will was the will of her second husband William James Lennon died 1873 Edgecliff, Sydney, NSW.
The Cox family, I believe, is the William Cox whose wife was a Blatchford, Sydney, NSW.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 10:32 BST (UK)
She was 72 at time of death, 19 June 1884, so birth 1812.

Jamjar

Added: 3267/1839 V18393267 74A LENNON William J to OR PHILLIPS Frances E WILKINSON JB

Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:04 BST (UK)
What were the names of her children?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:16 BST (UK)
Frances only had one child and father was William James that I know of. James Walter born 1856 died 1858.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:19 BST (UK)
NSW BDM marr
1875 / 720  LENNON Frances B  m.  FUSSELL James

Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:29 BST (UK)
Notice of the marriage between James FUSSELL and Francis Elizabeth LENNON (relict of late William James LENNON) 24 July 1875
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13357838
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:33 BST (UK)
I'm thinking Patchy has the details re 2nd and 3rd marriages.

We're looking for a marriage to a Phillips or Wilkinson between her birth in 1812 and marriage in 1839.

She could have been born and married outside of NSW.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:52 BST (UK)
I see Anne Blatchford/Blachford Want as married:

775/1855 V1855775 43B WANT George to BEDDEK Ann B CB

Is this correct?

She dies in QLD, at a noteworthy home:

1909 B11871 Anne Blackford Want parents Francis Beddek and Elizabeth Blackford   

Death notice, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165736547

So, what is the Cox connection you mention.

Jamjar

Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:52 BST (UK)

You need to see the marriage certificate, 1875. It will ask for details which will inform you of Frances's origins, and events in her life before 1875.

Can you please list all the information of the death certificate for Frances.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:57 BST (UK)

So, what is the Cox connection you mention.


I think it is this marriage: William COX married Anna (or Hannah) BLACKFORD in 1821
1040/1821 V18211040 147B

Modified to add: At St John's Parramatta
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 12:11 BST (UK)

So, what is the Cox connection you mention.


I think it is this marriage: William COX married Anna (or Hannah) BLACKFORD in 1821
1040/1821 V18211040 147B

Modified to add: At St John's Parramatta

I'm still not seeing the connection. Ann Beddeks mother Elizabeth has father listed as Joseph on NSWBM. Mother not named. Ann is buried at South Brisbane Cemetery and age not listed.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 12:17 BST (UK)
Got it.

Elizabeth Blachford is a sister of a Mrs Cox. So technically Ann is not connected to a Cox family. 2nd column.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2191508

Jamjar

Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 October 17 12:24 BST (UK)
Patchy, could you transcribe the sentence/sentences that refer to Ann in the will of William, please?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Thursday 12 October 17 01:21 BST (UK)
Patchy, could you transcribe the sentence/sentences that refer to Ann in the will of William, please?

Jamjar


BE IT KNOWN that upon a search being made in the Registry of the Court it appears that on 2 JULY 1873 ADMINISTRATION of the Estate of
WILLIAM JAMES LENNON
late of EDGECLIFF in the State of New South Wales, GENTLEMAN Deceased who died on 10 JUNE 1873 was granted to FRANCES ELIZABETH LENNON the widow of the deceased.

(Given at Sydney in the State of New South Wales on 13 October 1999.  Deputy Registrar.


Honour all Men by these Presents that We Frances Elizabeth Lennon and Anne Blachford Want both of Edgecliffe Road near Sydney in the Colony of New South Wales Widows are jointly and severally bound unto Her Majesty the Queen Her Heirs and Successors in the sum of Twelve hundred pounds of good and lawful money of Great Britain to be paid to Her said Majesty the Queen Her Heirs and Successors for which payment well and truly to be made we bind ourselves and each and every of us for the whole our and each and every of our heirs executors and administrators firmly by these Presents.
Sealed with our Seals
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 October 17 02:44 BST (UK)
Is that from a will, or probate?

Was Anne mentioned as a recipient of money or goods, from William's estate?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Thursday 12 October 17 02:48 BST (UK)
I'm thinking Patchy has the details re 2nd and 3rd marriages.

We're looking for a marriage to a Phillips or Wilkinson between her birth in 1812 and marriage in 1839.

She could have been born and married outside of NSW.

Jamjar

Hi Jamjar
On Frances's death cert. it has her born in the colonies.
No mention of parents, in fact very little detail is given hence my search for her Wilkinson/Phillips details.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: Patchy on Thursday 12 October 17 02:52 BST (UK)
Is that from a will, or probate?

Was Anne mentioned as a recipient of money or goods, from William's estate?

Jamjar

No Anne didn't inherit anything from the estate of William that I know of. I was hoping that the mention of Anne might have led me to more on Frances. I know they are connected somehow but I just can't find that missing link.
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 12 October 17 07:44 BST (UK)

 

Added: 3267/1839 V18393267 74A LENNON William J to OR PHILLIPS Frances E WILKINSON JB

Just to clarify

3267/1839 V18393267 74A
LENNON, William J
To Frances E WILKINSON  or PHILLIPS
At JB

JB is an early church code. 

JB-    Presbyterian, Sydney, St Andrew's Scots Church.

Have you sought the information on this record through the church records?

Sue
 

Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 12 October 17 11:09 BST (UK)
I know it doesn't really help with finding Frances Elizabeth, however there is this interesting article about Francis BEDDEK, his career and marriage to Elizabeth BLACHFORD and family, including the COX connection.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article85954448
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: majm on Friday 13 October 17 02:56 BST (UK)
11 December 1828 St Matthew’s C of E, Windsor (NSW, Australia)
Francis BEDDEK, of this parish and Elizabeth BLATCHFORD of this parish, married by licence, by Rev Elijah SMITH.  Francis signed, Elizabeth signed but as Elizabth BLACHFORD)   
Witnesses:
William COX of Clarendon, Windsor  (signed)
Elizabeth GARLING of Sydney (signed)
Mary Ann MACKENZIE of Sydney (signed)

St Matthews C of E Windsor, parish register
Francis BEDDEK, solicitor died 12 November 1852, Windsor
Buried 14 November 1852 by Rev Henry T Stiles.

JM
Title: Re: Frances Elizabeth Wilkinson
Post by: majm on Friday 13 October 17 03:55 BST (UK)
Re the marriage to William J LENNON in 1839 and recorded in St Andrews (Presbyterian) registers.

I see there are TWO entries listed in the index of the NSW BDM for this marriage:
1839, Volume 74A, line 3267
1839, Volume 75, line 501

Both are indexed as
William J LENNON marrying Frances E WILKINSON or PHILLIPS.

Do you have a copy of either of those marriage entries in the NSW BDM Early Church Records?

If not, perhaps you could consider ordering an official transcription of ONE of them …. If so, then likely the one in Volume 75 perhaps may have a tad more info than the one in 74A.   In either instance, there will be scant info.   I suspect volume 75 will be the original parish register and volume 74a will be the transmitted record to St Andrews (in its capacity as ‘head’ of the Church of Scotland in NSW).     On some occasions the clergy may have recorded the ship of arrival and/or the age of bride and groom and/or the name of a person giving consent IF either party was a minor (not yet 21 years of age) or if either was under a bond (ie and thereby requiring consent of the NSW Governor). 

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/births-deaths-and-marriages-registers-1787-1856

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/births-deaths-and-marriages-guide

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html  (official transcriptions)

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

JM