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Title: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Wednesday 11 October 17 09:09 BST (UK)
Hi there,
             I'm looking for a Halcrow/Halcro family in NZ who has an ancestor by the name of Erskine from Scotland. In particular a HENRY ERSKINE and his two sons EBENEZER & RALPH. Their mother was MARGARET HALCROW from the small Island of Wyre, Orkney and born about 1647.
It maybe of course that someone with a different surname has  an Erskine ancestor ?
There was a lady, with the surname Halcrow, living in Te Aroha years ago who was related but that's all I know.

Here's hoping,
MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:11 BST (UK)
Just wondering why you have posted on London & Middlesex board  :-\
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:25 BST (UK)
Because I'm an idiot. I thought I was using NZ Rootschat. Must cancel it now. Thanks for getting back to me so quick. MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:32 BST (UK)
Please someone tell me how to cancel the Halcrow post that I've just posted on the London board. I should have put it on the NZ board.

MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 11 October 17 11:55 BST (UK)
I have asked the Mods to move it.  ;D
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 11 October 17 12:22 BST (UK)
Hi Maps,

I have now moved your post :)

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Wednesday 11 October 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Sarah I am indebted to you.

MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Janette on Wednesday 11 October 17 21:47 BST (UK)
There is this death on NZ BDM's

1998/10971   Erskine    Ebenezer    born 5 July 1902

You may want to follow up on

Cemetery Search
ERSKINE, Ebenezer
Also Known as   Ben
Address   Papatotara
Date of Death   1998-06-02
Age   95 years
Cemetery   Tuatapere
Location of Grave   7 Block IV C

Cheers Janette

Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 01:27 BST (UK)
Ebenezer ERSKINE- born New Zealand -  5 July 1902 - was the son of Agnes and Hugh ERSKINE.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 01:32 BST (UK)
NZ Marriage  (probable)

Agnes Mary ARMSTRONG - Hugh ERSKINE -- Year :  1883
----

MAPS .. is
(born Orkney) > 1647 >  the date you meant to write ???

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 03:47 BST (UK)
That Erskine marriage [1883].........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CL18830706.2.10?query=hugh%20erskine


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 03:51 BST (UK)
Obituary for a Mr. Hugh Erskine...........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OSWCC19220808.2.11.4?query=hugh%20erskine


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 04:14 BST (UK)
Cemetery details:

ERSKINE, Hugh
Occupation   Farmer
Address   Papatotara
Date of Death   1922-07-31
Age   63 years
Cemetery   Tuatapere
Location of Grave   7 Block II A

ERSKINE, Agnes Mary
Date of Death1951-02-05
Age87 years
CemeteryTuatapere
Location of Grave 7 Block II A


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 04:26 BST (UK)
Children shown on NZ BDM index......

1896/15299   Erskine   Annie   Agnes Mary   Hugh
1902/1506   Erskine   Ebenezer   Agnes Mary   Hugh
1906/24070   Erskine   Eric Hugh McKee   Agnes Mary   Hugh   -   
1892/8876   Erskine   Hugh   Agnes Mary   Hugh      
1893/9155   Erskine   May   Agnes Mary   Hugh

And these: ? ?

1884/7861   Erskine   William John   Agnes Mary   Hugh  McKee
1887/4947   Erskine   Elizabeth   Agnes Mary   Hugh  McKee


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 04:26 BST (UK)
... but this Agnes Mary ERSKINE nee ARMSTRONG is apparently of Irish heritage.

Hi there,
             I'm looking for a Halcrow/Halcro family in NZ who has an ancestor by the name of Erskine from Scotland. In particular a HENRY ERSKINE and his two sons EBENEZER & RALPH. Their mother was MARGARET HALCROW from the small Island of Wyre, Orkney and born about 1647.

Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 04:44 BST (UK)
... but this Agnes Mary ERSKINE nee ARMSTRONG is apparently of Irish heritage.

Hi there,
             I'm looking for a Halcrow/Halcro family in NZ who has an ancestor by the name of Erskine from Scotland. In particular a HENRY ERSKINE and his two sons EBENEZER & RALPH. Their mother was MARGARET HALCROW from the small Island of Wyre, Orkney and born about 1647. [/color

MAPS ... according a number of family trees at ancestry.com (and at least two appear to have been well researched and are accompanied by photos of ancestors living in Ireland),
Hugh ERSKINE  (who wed Agnes Mary ARMSTRONG in 1883)  was also born in County Down, Ireland.

   ~ Lu
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 04:45 BST (UK)
There is also this birth.......

1898/13090   Erskine   Ralph Martin   Annie M   Hugh


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 04:51 BST (UK)
And death......

1966/37944   Erskine   Ralph Martin   68Y

Probate:Archway

https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22092691

Cemetery details:

ERSKINE, Ralph Martin
Date of Death1966-08-02
Age67 years
CemeteryTuatapere
Location of Grave15 Block VIII B


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 05:05 BST (UK)
MAPS ... the man Hugh ERSKINE for whom records are being published in this thread, appears not to have an immediate connection to the Margaret HALCROW you speak of.

[This Hugh ERSKINE did however have sons named Ebenezer ERSKINE and Ralph Martin ERSKINE but the mother of these children was the aforementioned Agnes Mary nee ARMSTRONG.]

At the link below is the Probate record for this Hugh ERSKINE ... and at Image 731 there is a statement attesting to the fact that he was born at Lisburn, Ireland.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSCF-YCD7?i=730&cc=1865481

   ~ Lu
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 07:05 BST (UK)
"Ebenezer Erskine was a Scottish minister whose actions led to the establishment of the Secession Church. Wikipedia
Born: 22 June 1680
Died: 2 June 1754, Stirling, United Kingdom
Education: University of Edinburgh
Siblings: Ralph Erskine"


The year of 1647 may indeed have been the year MAPS meant........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 07:56 BST (UK)
The biography of the Reverend Ebenezer Erskine.........

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/erskine_ebenezer.htm


Post script:

Ebenezer Erskine- 1680 - 1754

Ralph Erskine- 1685 - 1752


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 12 October 17 08:53 BST (UK)
Biography for Ralph Erskine.....


http://www.puritansermons.com/erskine/erskin19.htm


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Thursday 12 October 17 09:30 BST (UK)
Wow, I never expected a reaction like this !
Thank you all very much for all your searches.
Minniehaha you have found the original Ebenezer. I think I owe you all an explanation for my original message.
My 3x great grandfather GEORGE MAINLAND married a MARY HALCROW in London in 1810. This Mary Halcrow is believed, by my Mainland family, to be the uncountable times great grandaughter of MARGARET HALCRO (1647) see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Halcro-3
I am hoping to be able to fill in the descendants between MARY and MARGARET but no luck so far.
I know about the Erskine Genealogy book online but it's no help it's more about the Erskines than the Halcros. My Mainland family originate fro m Orkney as well and believe it or not from the very same Island (Wyre) where Margaret was born !
If you know the story about how MARGARET was buried alive then you'll know about "The Ring". Many years ago my cousin was sent a picture of this RING by a lady from Te Aroha who was either a Halcrow or an Erskine descendant ??
I was trying to track down this person or family hence my message.

Thanks again everybody. MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 12 October 17 10:14 BST (UK)
Maps,  a book for you, "The Little General & the Rousay Crofters!" Thomson. Wyre was part of the Rousay estate which was bought by the wee carnaptious General Burroughs & treated the islanders as if he was back in India! Amazon.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Thursday 12 October 17 15:16 BST (UK)
Thanks Skoosh an excellent tip.  I do know of the book ,in fact I saw it in Rousay where we stayed there a few years ago but then I promptly forgot about it. I will get hold of it one way or another.

MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 12 October 17 21:12 BST (UK)
MAPS

... a researcher of the ERSKINE family at  the following link has a "New Zealand" connection by way of an email address.  ;D     Might be worth trying to see if he knows of the Te Aroha researcher ??   :D

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ERSKINE/2004-04/1083120840

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 13 October 17 02:14 BST (UK)
Or maybe try here? [But not sure of a New Zealand connection]......

https://www.geni.com/people/the-Reverend-Ebenezer-Erskine/6000000011943735624


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 13 October 17 02:58 BST (UK)
MAPS

You could also try members of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists [NZSG ] who have an interest in the names HALCRO/HALCROW and ERSKINE.

Here's a link, with a form to complete to establish contact with the member(s)

https://www.genealogy.org.nz/members_interests_23

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Saturday 14 October 17 10:23 BST (UK)
Thanks Lucy and Minniehaha, I'm working on your suggestions and hope to hear back.

MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 14 October 17 10:35 BST (UK)
I have Halcrow's myself, must look it up!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Saturday 14 October 17 11:37 BST (UK)
Who knows ? We are all connected some way or another. I'll be interested to hear back !
MAPS
Title: Re: HALCRO/HALCROW families in New Zealand
Post by: MAPS on Sunday 11 February 18 13:46 GMT (UK)
Hello everybody who have helped with this Topic.
 
I have just recently found the Halcrow/Erskine family I was looking for in Kihikihi, Waikato.
I really appreciated your input !

Kind regards MAPS