RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: ribbo39 on Friday 13 October 17 10:03 BST (UK)

Title: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 13 October 17 10:03 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I have  some of my family who lived in Heigham (Norwich) and wonder if anyone has knowledge of the PRs for the above two (2) churches. They don't appear on F/Search nor can I find them on Anc..y

Some of the family were bapt. in Norwich St.Giles (1837,39 & 40) after which I believe they moved to Distillory Street, Norwich and had more children there (using BMD).

Any help most appreciated.

Alan
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 13 October 17 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi
There's Arthur Richard Gray s of Richard and Susanna Gray tailor? 1.9.1841.
Arthur's sons Fred and William 28.4.1869 born 17.1.1869 and 12.7.1865 .mother Jane from St Barts Heigham printer
Charles Norman s of William Henry and Mary Ann printer born 8.11.1869 bapt 12.1.1870

Sorry but that's it.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: amondg on Saturday 14 October 17 11:21 BST (UK)
NFHS transcriptions

St Benedicts Norwich
Anthony Andrew Gray son of Richard and Susan Gray baptized 14 November 1847. Father Taylor
Abode Heigham

This child was buried St Margaret's Norwich 2 July 1848, infant of Heigham.

Also at St Margaret's Frederick Richard Gray buried 13 June 1838 infant of Heigham.

St Giles.
Charlotte Gray age 76 buried 16 November 1845 of Heigham.

Burials Baptist Church Pottergate Norwich.
Mrs. Mary Beakley Gray age 59 buried 31 December 1848 of Heigham.
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 14 October 17 13:29 BST (UK)
Seems to want Elijah and Caroline Gray
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=678581.0
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: amondg on Sunday 15 October 17 06:14 BST (UK)
Just in case.
They are both buried at Earlham Cemetery Norwich
Area 25 section 34 plot 34/170
Inscription
Elijah Gray who died  May 8 1889 age 75 years Caroline Gray wife of the above who died 12 July 1898 age 81 years
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: amondg on Sunday 15 October 17 06:37 BST (UK)
They had a son James Walter Gray baptized at St Lawrence Norwich 21 February 1836,
of Elijah and Caroline Gray brush-maker.
Buried 7 April 1836 at St Margaret's infant
Burial transcription has name reversed as Walter James Gray

children Alfred John 1837, Mary Rebecca 1839 and Frederic 1841 cannot see that they were registered at GRO.

Using new GRO
Rebecca Harriet 1847 mother maiden name Houghton
Sarah Anna 1849                   same
Caroline 1851                        same
Emma 1858                           same

Death of Mary Rebecca 1840 transcribed as Guy and not Gray (GRO)

ADDED
Elijah and Caroline were witnesses to the marriage of Rebecca Houghton to William Drury occ. Turner 19 July 1840 at All Saints.
Her father David -Carpenter, his father Edmund -Turner
 
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ribbo39 on Sunday 15 October 17 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Thank you all for the info supplied. I already had the names of 7 children taken mainly from the census returns but you have added some extra ones not known previously;
Mary Rebecca died 1840
Frederick Richard 1838
James Walter 1836

Emma Gray m Edwin Artis 1873 in St.Phillips church, Heigham and my g/mother Ethel Artis mar. William Ribbans in St.Thomas's church, Heigham.

Its these registers I'm interested in to try and get more detail but it appears they are not available
or have been lost/destroyed. I even can't find any BTs for these parishes.

Alan
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: The Yokel on Sunday 15 October 17 14:04 BST (UK)
Not much help to you in Adelaide. ;)

Norfolk Record Office holds the Parish Registers for Heigham.
see http://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/view/NCC154771
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: The Yokel on Sunday 15 October 17 14:17 BST (UK)
From NFHS

2 Nov 1873
Edwin Artis, 26, single, Jewler , St Philip, Francis Artis, Baker
Emma Gray, 17, single, ........, St Philip, Alfred Gray, Fish Salesman
both signed.  Witnesses Alfred Gray & Emma Gray both signed


Can't work this out! has she given her brothers name instead of her fathers?
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ribbo39 on Sunday 15 October 17 18:45 BST (UK)
Hi Yokel,

Yes - you are correct. In fact she was not even 17 but just over 15 years when married being born 6-2-1858. She listed her brother instead of her father.
Emma had her first child Norris in Mar. 1874 which probably is the reason neither her father of mother attended the wedding.

Thanks for the list of registers. I wonder why St.Phillips & St.Thomas' registers have not been put on the IGI, as most of Norfolk are showing.

Alan
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 20 October 17 22:09 BST (UK)
Hi amondg,

Forgot to follow up your kind reply;
Inscription
Elijah Gray who died  May 8 1889 age 75 years Caroline Gray wife of the above who died 12 July 1898 age 81 years


Do you know if there are any photographs of the headstones for this cemetery or where  they can be obtained. Also where did you get the inscriptions from?

Alan
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: amondg on Saturday 21 October 17 04:55 BST (UK)
Transcriptions by the Norfolk Family History Society.
They do not have photographs, perhaps a rootschat participant lives near the Earlham Cemtery you have the coordinates and plot number.
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: Olleyke on Friday 27 October 17 10:53 BST (UK)
Hi amondg,

Forgot to follow up your kind reply;
Inscription
Elijah Gray who died  May 8 1889 age 75 years Caroline Gray wife of the above who died 12 July 1898 age 81 years


Do you know if there are any photographs of the headstones for this cemetery or where  they can be obtained. Also where did you get the inscriptions from?

Alan

Hi ribbo39,

I don't live too far from Earlham Cemetery and would be more than happy to find and photograph the grave for you next time I go if you wish :)

Kirsty
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 27 October 17 11:02 BST (UK)
Hello Kirsty,

Thank you for kind offer. I would very much like to obtain a photo(s) of their grave and headstone if they are readable.

I do have a map of the cemetery which I can send to you if it will help. Just PM me with an email address and I can forward to you.

Alan
Title: Re: Heigham St.Phillips & St.Thomas (Norwich) (2x) PRs - "Gray" - baptisms 1840-1854
Post by: Olleyke on Saturday 28 October 17 12:35 BST (UK)
Hello Kirsty,

Thank you for kind offer. I would very much like to obtain a photo(s) of their grave and headstone if they are readable.

I do have a map of the cemetery which I can send to you if it will help. Just PM me with an email address and I can forward to you.

Alan

Hi Alan

Not to worry about the map, I have one laminated in the car as I go up there quite often  ;D

Will message you with my email address :)

Kirsty