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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: AngelFish on Friday 13 October 17 11:33 BST (UK)
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Hello
I've been unable to find a marriage between this couple who are my direct xGrandparents. Please could I have some help with this family?
James Midcalfe/Metcalfe and Ann Moir, both of Wallsend. Probably married around 1860.
Their children:
Birth registered 1859 for Hannah MOIR, no mother's maiden name (called Hannah Metcalf on the 1861 census)
1861 Ann Isabella MITCALF mothers maiden name MOIR
1862 Thomas MITCALF mothers maiden name MOIRS
1864 James MIDCALF " " " MOIR
1866 Alexander MITCALF " " " MOIR
1867 Mary METCALF " " " MOIR
1869 Margaret METCALF " " " MOIR
1871 William METCALF " " " MOIR
I have seen James and Ann (Metcalf) and children on the 1861 and 1871 census at Willington, but nothing more recent for the couple and the younger children.
Have I missed anything out that would be useful?
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Anyone born in Scotland? They could have married over the border - or not at all.
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Thomas Metcalfe born Willington 1862 is a boarder in 1881 age 19 labourer in ship yard.
Possible marriage in 1883 to Jane Nichol has Thomas' father as James.
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According to the 1861 census
James was born Wallsend 1832
Ann was born Newcastle 1835
Hannah was born Wallsend 1859
Ann was born Wallsend 1861
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In 1841 James appears to be in this family group
Thos Metcalf abt 1794 Walls End, Northumberland
Hannah Metcalf abt 1790
Ann Metcalf abt 1815
William Metcalf abt 1818
Mary Metcalf abt 1821 Northumberland, England
Hannah Metcalf abt 1825 Northumberland, England
Thomas Metcalf abt 1828 Northumberland, England
Matthew Metcalf abt 1830 Northumberland, England
James Metcalf abt 1832 Northumberland, England
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James is still with parents in 1851
Thomas Metcalf 58
Hannah Metcalf 52
Matthew Metcalf 20
James Metcalf 18
Mary Metcalf 36
Margaret Metcalf 8
James' baptism date is 9 Dec 1832 at St. Peter's, Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Father Thomas is from Yorkshire (varies on the 51, 61 and 71 census as to where)
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Possible death
Name:James Metcalf
Estimated birth year:abt 1832
Registration Year:1874
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death:42
Registration district:Newcastle upon Tyne
Volume:10b
Page:69
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Durham Records Online free index shows the burial in 1874 of a James Metcalf of Wallsend, aged 42, i.e. born c. 1832, which fits with the death David has noted.
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Age doesn't quite fit, but there is this death in Tynemouth RD, 1st q. 1872, Ann Metcalf, 10b, 102
Durham Records Online free index give this as Ann Metcalf of Wallsend.
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Shields Daily News 14 August 1874 has this
James Metcalf died yesterday from injuries recieved by being run over on the railway at Wallsend,Deceased lived at Ravensworth Pit Row Wallsend.
Above says he was 6 years old but article in the Shields Daily Gazette the day before says he was a staithsman and 46 years of age and gives detail of the accident.
William
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James is still with parents in 1851
Thomas Metcalf 58
Hannah Metcalf 52
Matthew Metcalf 20
James Metcalf 18
Mary Metcalf 36
Margaret Metcalf 8
James' baptism date is 9 Dec 1832 at St. Peter's, Wallsend, Northumberland, England
Father Thomas is from Yorkshire (varies on the 51, 61 and 71 census as to where)
On the 1851 census, the pob for Thomas has been transcribed as 'Masher' on familysearch. This is probably Masham, Yorkshire
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Shields Daily News 14 August 1874 has this
James Metcalf died yesterday from injuries recieved by being run over on the railway at Wallsend,Deceased lived at Ravensworth Pit Row Wallsend.
Above says he was 6 years old but article in the Shields Daily Gazette the day before says he was a staithsman and 46 years of age and gives detail of the accident.
William
That fits nicely with the 1871 census where they are living in Ravensworth Street and James is a waggon teemer. A teemer worked on the coal staithes, tipping the coal from the wagons into the holds of the ships below.
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Shields Daily News 14 August 1874 has this
James Metcalf died yesterday from injuries recieved by being run over on the railway at Wallsend,Deceased lived at Ravensworth Pit Row Wallsend.
Above says he was 6 years old but article in the Shields Daily Gazette the day before says he was a staithsman and 46 years of age and gives detail of the accident.
William
That fits nicely with the 1871 census where they are living in Ravensworth Street and James is a waggon teemer. A teemer worked on the coal staithes, tipping the coal from the wagons into the holds of the ships below.
This burial from DRO seems more likely for Ann, though the age doesn't fit: 1873, Ann Metcalf of Ravensworth Street aged 43.
2 q. 1873, Tynemouth 10b, 100
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This is all brilliant thank you so much. I knew there were lots of Metcalfs in Yorkshire but I had expected mine to have come over from Ireland.
Ann Moir... if she had already had one child is there any reason they would have had a border marriage? She wasn't too young. Would the (known) irregular border marriages be on the IGI? which I did already try before asking here.
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Shields Daily News 14 August 1874 has this
James Metcalf died yesterday from injuries recieved by being run over on the railway at Wallsend,Deceased lived at Ravensworth Pit Row Wallsend.
Above says he was 6 years old but article in the Shields Daily Gazette the day before says he was a staithsman and 46 years of age and gives detail of the accident.
William
Oh poor James and his family. I will have to try the library to see if I can get access to that newspaper via the British Newspaper Archive or Find My Past.
Thank you William.
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Mary Metcalf appears to be in Tynemouth Workhouse in the 1881 census - recorded as born 1868 Howdon,Northumberland.
Wonder if the death in 1873 for Margaret Metcalf might be for the youngest -address given as Rose Hill which is where,I think, James's older brother William is living in 1818.
William
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Wonder if the death in 1873 for Margaret Metcalf might be for the youngest -address given as Rose Hill which is where,I think, James's older brother William is living in 1818.
That's very likely as Rose Hill was adjacent to Ravensworth Street
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/431825/566933/12/100615
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A James Metcalf b Wallsend 1864 is on the Channel Islands census 1881 on vessels.
William
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Shields Daily Gazette 25 and 27 May 1878 has a couple of articles referring to a youth called Alexander Metcalfe absconding from Tynemouth workhouse.
William
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This is all brilliant thank you so much. I knew there were lots of Metcalfs in Yorkshire but I had expected mine to have come over from Ireland.
I have a 'Thomas Metcalf/e' ancestor about the same time and area as yours, but there seems to be quite a few of them :-\
Do you know which denomination your Metcalf's were?
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Father Thomas is from Yorkshire (varies on the 51, 61 and 71 census as to where)
Just to say I think the 51, 61 and 71 are for two different families. I think the 51 census is the correct family and Thomas dies in 1859 (Metcalfe) and Hannah possibly in 1857 (Mitcalf) but you would have to look at further records to be sure.
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Durham Records Online free index shows the burial in 1874 of a James Metcalf of Wallsend, aged 42, i.e. born c. 1832, which fits with the death David has noted.
Burials, Tynemouth District - Record Number: 738557.2
Location: Wallsend, Northumberland
Church: St. Peter
Denomination: Anglican
15 Aug 1874 James Metcalf, of Wallsend, age: 42
Burials, Tynemouth District - Record Number: 738010.2
Location: Wallsend, Northumberland
Church: St. Peter
Denomination: Anglican
23 Feb 1872 Ann Metcalf, of Wallsend, age: 41
Source: Durham Records Online - https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/
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This burial from DRO seems more likely for Ann, though the age doesn't fit: 1873, Ann Metcalf of Ravensworth Street aged 43.
2 q. 1873, Tynemouth 10b, 100
Burials, Tynemouth District - Record Number: 738253.2
Location: Wallsend, Northumberland
Church: St. Peter
Denomination: Anglican
12 May 1873 Ann Metcalf, of Ravensworth Street, Willington, age: 43
Source: Durham Records Online - https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/