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Title: where is this place?
Post by: SDP on Sunday 15 October 17 16:53 BST (UK)
When my 4 * g grandfather enlisted into the army he said he was born in Neugrania in Co Limerick. When I put this into google it brings up nothing for this place. Is this spelt incorrectly or is there no such place? On the 1851 census it just says he was born in Ireland. He died in 1852. Does anyone have any idea what it could possibly be please?

Sandra
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 October 17 17:11 BST (UK)
Are you looking at a transcription or an original image.
If it's an original image I'd suggest snipping out the place name and a little more writing around it to get an idea of the hand writing and post it here.
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 15 October 17 17:15 BST (UK)
Maybe Newgarden?

There's a list of Baronies, Parishes, Electoral Divisions and Townlands of County Limerick here:
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 15 October 17 17:26 BST (UK)
https://www.logainm.ie/en/31392   Newgarden North

https://www.logainm.ie/en/31288   Newgarden South
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 October 17 17:30 BST (UK)
We all seem to be thinking the same
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,564799,660856,9,7
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: rathmore on Friday 20 October 17 15:43 BST (UK)
What was his name?
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: Richard Knott on Friday 20 October 17 16:52 BST (UK)
Or it could be 'near Granagh'

Richard
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: Bookbox on Friday 20 October 17 18:28 BST (UK)
Perhaps an image would help?
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: Sinann on Friday 20 October 17 19:36 BST (UK)
It's a parish not a townland, that makes a difference.
There is a John Ryall in Ballingarry parish in 1830 but that name doesn't look anything like Ballingarry
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587402/004587402_00123.pdf
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 21 October 17 12:44 BST (UK)
mentioned on family search

Patt Ryall born about 1805, Limerick

Chelsea Pensioners 1760-1913

national archives ref: WO 97 330 72

Neugrania might be an old irish word? or could be an old townland? have you check with the local council?
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: SDP on Sunday 22 October 17 14:54 BST (UK)
Thankyou for all the replies so far. I am still non the wiser but will take on board the comments and delve into them in the future. Meanwhile a thankyou to Bookbox who has posted a copy of Patrick Ryall's attestation 1825 for all to see.

Regards,

Sandra
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 22 October 17 16:07 BST (UK)
I think the last 4 letters are..... nice
Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: rathmore on Tuesday 24 October 17 12:04 BST (UK)
on find my past they have his army records I don't think the first letter is a N. but it is in the parish of ?

http://www.findmypast.co.uk

his service no was 416

you could try the Heritage Project

http://www.limerickdioceseheritage.org

you could write to one of the newspapers asking for help.


Title: Re: where is this place?
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 October 17 12:52 BST (UK)
Quote from: rathmore on Tuesday 24 October 17 12:04 BST (UK)
on find my past they have his army records I don't think the first letter is a N. but it is in the parish of ?

http://www.findmypast.co.uk

his service no was 416

you could try the Heritage Project

http://www.limerickdioceseheritage.org

you could write to one of the newspapers asking for help.




Yes it a parish but C of I parish or RC Parish??

We don't know his Religion.