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Title: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Monday 16 October 17 01:40 BST (UK)
Hello---
    Looking for other descendants of the Wainwrights of Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet,
Shropshire. I descend from Mary Wainwright Beckett, born about 1813, daughter of
Thomas Wainwright & Jane Whitney Wainwright. Mary had a brother, John, born about
1808. He married in 1847 to Mary Birch (c. 1822-1853). They lived at Moreton Corbet.
Thanks.
Stephen Eric Simon , CT, USA
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 07:35 BST (UK)
Look in 'Surname Interests' under 'Your Tools' below, to see if anyone else on here is researching your family.

(Also enter your interests there so others can find you)
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 07:46 BST (UK)
Mary Birch and John Wainwright are in a tree on Ancestry - claims John dies in 1850, one daughter, Jane, born 28 October 1850, married William Thompson and had a child John William Henry Thompson born in October 1882 in Bramham, Yorkshire.
John W H Thompson is claimed to marry Alice Maud Mary Barton, but no known children.

All this needs checking out as the tree owner may just not have followed up all possible leads

Added:
See below for information about John Wainwright.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 08:29 BST (UK)
'Jane, born 28 October 1850, married William Thompson and had a child John William Henry Thompson born in October 1882 in Bramham, Yorkshire.'

In 1901 John W H Thompson age 18,is living with his Mother Alice (!), widowed and daughter Daisy age 16 born Paddington.

A tree has Jane (Wainwright) Thompson as : Jane passed away on 5 February 1887 in London, London, at the age of 36

GRO Birth
Daisy Ellen Gertrude Thompson mmn Wainwright  September quarter 1884 in Kensington

Added:
Daisy Helen Gertrude Thompson was baptised on 13th July 1884 at St Paul, Paddington, parents William (coachman) and Jenny
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 08:39 BST (UK)
Unless there is another one, Alice Maude Mary Barton married George Clement Davy, 34, bachelor, Solicitor's Clerk.  Father:  Clement, Builder.  AMM, 25, spinster.  Father:  William Frederick, Shoe Manufacturer.  4 September 1900 - St Paul, Stafford.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 08:40 BST (UK)
1891 census:
Living at Civil Parish:   Walton  Ecclesiastical parish:   Hersham  Residence Place:   Hersham, Walton, Surrey, England  Registration district:   Chertsey  Sub registration district:   Walton
ED, Institution or Vessel:   5  Piece:   550  Folio:   101
William Thompson   40   Bramham, Yorkshire, England
Alice Thompson   34
Daisy Thompson   7  Paddington
Henry Thompson   9   Bramham
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 08:43 BST (UK)
Presumably this is the proposed marriage:
Marriages December quarter 1910
Alice M M Barton        Guildford    2a   181   
John W H Thompson        Guildford    2a   181

Added:
Quite a few Alice Maud M Barton births....

Tree claims this one:
Births June quarter  1883
 Alice Maud M Barton       Exeter    5b   89
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 08:57 BST (UK)
17 December 1910 - Christ Church, Guildford
JWH Thompson - 28, Printer.  Father:  William (deceased) Coachman
AMM Barton - 27.  Father:  George, Locomotive Inspector

Witnesses:  Daisy Helena Gertrude Thompson, George Edward Barton.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 09:01 BST (UK)
If this is her death, Daisy did not marry....

Deaths September quarter 1953   
Daisy H G Thompson age 69 (so born 1884/1883)    Rochdale    10f   277

Added: No, probate says she is a widow, so not her.

Added:
But the 2 possible children named (Helena Alice and Wilfred Arthur) could both be births with surname Thompson mmn Thompson (Helena A 1917   and Wilfred A 1916, Rochdale) ...

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 09:07 BST (UK)
Back to the OP's information:

19 October 1847 - Moreton Corbet, Salop.
John Wainwright, full age, bachelor, Labourer.  Father:  Thomas, Labourer.  Abode: Birch Coppice.
Mary Birch, full age, spinster, Servant.  Father: Thomas, Labourer.  Abode:  Birch Coppice

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 09:13 BST (UK)
Daisy does:

Marriages December quarter 1914 
Daisy H G Thompson  Thompson    Rochdale    8e   60   
George B Thompson   Thompson  Rochdale    8e   60

Need to apply for Daisy's will to see if any other children.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 09:18 BST (UK)
Baptisms at Moreton Corbet - parents Thomas and Jane Wainwright

John - 11 December 1808 - of Preston
Mary - 3 October 1813 - of Birch Coppice, Labourer
Thomas and William - 19 September 1819 - of Birch Coppice, Labourer

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 09:26 BST (UK)
Moreton Corbet:

19 January 1808 - Thomas Wainwright (x) and Jane Witney (x) married by Banns.

Baptisms:

29 October 1850 - Jane daughter of John and Mary Wainwright of Birchen Coppice, Labourer
17 March 1853 - Mary daughter of John and Mary Wainwright of Birch Coppice, Labourer
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 09:58 BST (UK)
Daughter and Mother died:
GRO
Mary Wainwright age   0  June quarter 1853 in Wem  (page 512)
Mary Wainwright age 31     June quarter 1853 in Wem (page 511)

 
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 10:04 BST (UK)
Mary junior, buried 12 May aged 7 weeks.  Mother buried 7 April aged 31.  Birch Coppice was the address for both.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 10:05 BST (UK)
John Wainwright is still alive in 1851 census, age possibly 42 (ancestry thinks 47) with Mother Jane, 73, wife Mary 28 and daughter Jane 5 months.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 10:22 BST (UK)
Further burials as Moreton Corbet:

Jane Wainwright, aged 84 of Moreton Waste - 1 September 1859
Thomas Wainwright, aged 75 of Birch Coppice - 5 September 1846

Possibly Thomas' parents  :-\
Thomas Wainwright, aged 61 of Birch Coppice - 25 January 1803
Mary Wainwright, aged 70 of Birch Coppice - 24 May 1812

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 11:12 BST (UK)
Hi--
   Thanks for all the information. I will have to go through it. Great!!
Wow!! I appreciate all the help. I had a bit of this before. My Mary Wainwright
is the one who was bapt. in 1813--married Thomas Beckett.
THANKS!!
Stephen Simon
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 11:28 BST (UK)
Glad to have helped  ;D  I just wish I could find Mary and Thomas Beckett's marriage entry.

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 12:37 BST (UK)
Hi--
   Thanks. I wonder what happened to John Wainwright, bapt. 1808.
Where did he go after his wife and one daughter died??
I do have the marriage of Thomas Beckett & Mary Wainwright--
that is how I found her last name:
"Thomas Becket and Mary Weanwight" married October 20, 1834 at Wem.
I really appreciate all the Wainwright information--and the information
down from John.
Stephen Eric Simon, CT, USA
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 16:31 BST (UK)
And I take it that you have the only baptism at Moreton Corbet -

Emma - daughter of Thomas (Labourer) and Mary Becket of Bircher Copice - 16 November 1834.

Not sure whether the Vicar is airing his views on this one - it is one of the few baptisms where the mother's name appears before the father's i.e. Mary and Thomas Becket.   :-\  Certainly not a long time between marriage and baptism  :o

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 22 October 17 16:43 BST (UK)
There are other baptisms for children of Thomas and Mary Becket at Ightfield - about 14 miles from Moreton Corbet.

Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 17:12 BST (UK)
Hi--
   I did not have that baptism of Emma--I have her death certificate from 1848 or 1849.
She died at 14 years old.Mary, the wife, died in 1848 or 1849--I have that death certificate too. Then Thomas remarries an Ann Harrison in 1849--I have that marriage. Then Thomas, Ann and son George go to USA in 1850. George (my ancestor)was born in 1836 in that area. I have his bapt. at Whixall, I believe. You found children bapt. Thomas and Mary at Ightfield-- 
maybe another Thomas and Mary??  THANKS!!
Stephen
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 17:13 BST (UK)
Yes, a short time between marriage and child's birth. Nothing new.
They did marry!!
Stephen
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 17:17 BST (UK)
This is a possible death for John - just need to find him in censuses also.

John Wainwright
Died December quarter 1892 at Wem age 85   

Added:
There is a John Wainwright married to Ann living in Wem in censuses, varying places in Shropshire for birth.
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 17:40 BST (UK)
Hi--
   Thank you. I will check that out.
Stephen
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: chempat on Sunday 22 October 17 22:19 BST (UK)
Think this is the marriage, so not the same John:

Marriages December quarter 1847 
 Ann Mellowship        Shrewsbury    18   245   
John Wainwright    Shrewsbury    18   245
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 22 October 17 22:30 BST (UK)
Hello--
    Okay. Thanks.
Stephen
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Monday 23 October 17 15:00 BST (UK)
Hello--
    Thank you again. I am still looking for a marriage between
William Thompson & Jane/Jenny Wainwright in the 1881-1882
period. I did find Jane Wainwright (b. Moreton Corbet)in the 1881
census in Yorkshire.
Stephen
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 23 October 17 15:17 BST (UK)
Using FreeBMD - September quarter 1881 - St George Hanover Square - William Thompson and Jane Wainwright appear on the same page
Title: Re: Wainwright, Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
Post by: stesim58 on Monday 23 October 17 15:28 BST (UK)
Hello--
    That was fast. I will use that myself. I appreciate your help--AGAIN!!
Thanks.
Stephen