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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: stesim58 on Monday 16 October 17 01:40 BST (UK)
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Hello---
Looking for other descendants of the Wainwrights of Birch Coppice, Moreton Corbet,
Shropshire. I descend from Mary Wainwright Beckett, born about 1813, daughter of
Thomas Wainwright & Jane Whitney Wainwright. Mary had a brother, John, born about
1808. He married in 1847 to Mary Birch (c. 1822-1853). They lived at Moreton Corbet.
Thanks.
Stephen Eric Simon , CT, USA
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Mary Birch and John Wainwright are in a tree on Ancestry - claims John dies in 1850, one daughter, Jane, born 28 October 1850, married William Thompson and had a child John William Henry Thompson born in October 1882 in Bramham, Yorkshire.
John W H Thompson is claimed to marry Alice Maud Mary Barton, but no known children.
All this needs checking out as the tree owner may just not have followed up all possible leads
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See below for information about John Wainwright.
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'Jane, born 28 October 1850, married William Thompson and had a child John William Henry Thompson born in October 1882 in Bramham, Yorkshire.'
In 1901 John W H Thompson age 18,is living with his Mother Alice (!), widowed and daughter Daisy age 16 born Paddington.
A tree has Jane (Wainwright) Thompson as : Jane passed away on 5 February 1887 in London, London, at the age of 36
GRO Birth
Daisy Ellen Gertrude Thompson mmn Wainwright September quarter 1884 in Kensington
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Daisy Helen Gertrude Thompson was baptised on 13th July 1884 at St Paul, Paddington, parents William (coachman) and Jenny
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Unless there is another one, Alice Maude Mary Barton married George Clement Davy, 34, bachelor, Solicitor's Clerk. Father: Clement, Builder. AMM, 25, spinster. Father: William Frederick, Shoe Manufacturer. 4 September 1900 - St Paul, Stafford.
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1891 census:
Living at Civil Parish: Walton Ecclesiastical parish: Hersham Residence Place: Hersham, Walton, Surrey, England Registration district: Chertsey Sub registration district: Walton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5 Piece: 550 Folio: 101
William Thompson 40 Bramham, Yorkshire, England
Alice Thompson 34
Daisy Thompson 7 Paddington
Henry Thompson 9 Bramham
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Presumably this is the proposed marriage:
Marriages December quarter 1910
Alice M M Barton Guildford 2a 181
John W H Thompson Guildford 2a 181
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Quite a few Alice Maud M Barton births....
Tree claims this one:
Births June quarter 1883
Alice Maud M Barton Exeter 5b 89
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17 December 1910 - Christ Church, Guildford
JWH Thompson - 28, Printer. Father: William (deceased) Coachman
AMM Barton - 27. Father: George, Locomotive Inspector
Witnesses: Daisy Helena Gertrude Thompson, George Edward Barton.
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If this is her death, Daisy did not marry....
Deaths September quarter 1953
Daisy H G Thompson age 69 (so born 1884/1883) Rochdale 10f 277
Added: No, probate says she is a widow, so not her.
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But the 2 possible children named (Helena Alice and Wilfred Arthur) could both be births with surname Thompson mmn Thompson (Helena A 1917 and Wilfred A 1916, Rochdale) ...
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Back to the OP's information:
19 October 1847 - Moreton Corbet, Salop.
John Wainwright, full age, bachelor, Labourer. Father: Thomas, Labourer. Abode: Birch Coppice.
Mary Birch, full age, spinster, Servant. Father: Thomas, Labourer. Abode: Birch Coppice
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Daisy does:
Marriages December quarter 1914
Daisy H G Thompson Thompson Rochdale 8e 60
George B Thompson Thompson Rochdale 8e 60
Need to apply for Daisy's will to see if any other children.
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Baptisms at Moreton Corbet - parents Thomas and Jane Wainwright
John - 11 December 1808 - of Preston
Mary - 3 October 1813 - of Birch Coppice, Labourer
Thomas and William - 19 September 1819 - of Birch Coppice, Labourer
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Moreton Corbet:
19 January 1808 - Thomas Wainwright (x) and Jane Witney (x) married by Banns.
Baptisms:
29 October 1850 - Jane daughter of John and Mary Wainwright of Birchen Coppice, Labourer
17 March 1853 - Mary daughter of John and Mary Wainwright of Birch Coppice, Labourer
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Daughter and Mother died:
GRO
Mary Wainwright age 0 June quarter 1853 in Wem (page 512)
Mary Wainwright age 31 June quarter 1853 in Wem (page 511)
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Mary junior, buried 12 May aged 7 weeks. Mother buried 7 April aged 31. Birch Coppice was the address for both. :'( :'(
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John Wainwright is still alive in 1851 census, age possibly 42 (ancestry thinks 47) with Mother Jane, 73, wife Mary 28 and daughter Jane 5 months.
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Further burials as Moreton Corbet:
Jane Wainwright, aged 84 of Moreton Waste - 1 September 1859
Thomas Wainwright, aged 75 of Birch Coppice - 5 September 1846
Possibly Thomas' parents :-\
Thomas Wainwright, aged 61 of Birch Coppice - 25 January 1803
Mary Wainwright, aged 70 of Birch Coppice - 24 May 1812
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Hi--
Thanks for all the information. I will have to go through it. Great!!
Wow!! I appreciate all the help. I had a bit of this before. My Mary Wainwright
is the one who was bapt. in 1813--married Thomas Beckett.
THANKS!!
Stephen Simon
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Glad to have helped ;D I just wish I could find Mary and Thomas Beckett's marriage entry.
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Hi--
Thanks. I wonder what happened to John Wainwright, bapt. 1808.
Where did he go after his wife and one daughter died??
I do have the marriage of Thomas Beckett & Mary Wainwright--
that is how I found her last name:
"Thomas Becket and Mary Weanwight" married October 20, 1834 at Wem.
I really appreciate all the Wainwright information--and the information
down from John.
Stephen Eric Simon, CT, USA
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And I take it that you have the only baptism at Moreton Corbet -
Emma - daughter of Thomas (Labourer) and Mary Becket of Bircher Copice - 16 November 1834.
Not sure whether the Vicar is airing his views on this one - it is one of the few baptisms where the mother's name appears before the father's i.e. Mary and Thomas Becket. :-\ Certainly not a long time between marriage and baptism :o
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There are other baptisms for children of Thomas and Mary Becket at Ightfield - about 14 miles from Moreton Corbet.
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Hi--
I did not have that baptism of Emma--I have her death certificate from 1848 or 1849.
She died at 14 years old.Mary, the wife, died in 1848 or 1849--I have that death certificate too. Then Thomas remarries an Ann Harrison in 1849--I have that marriage. Then Thomas, Ann and son George go to USA in 1850. George (my ancestor)was born in 1836 in that area. I have his bapt. at Whixall, I believe. You found children bapt. Thomas and Mary at Ightfield--
maybe another Thomas and Mary?? THANKS!!
Stephen
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Yes, a short time between marriage and child's birth. Nothing new.
They did marry!!
Stephen
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This is a possible death for John - just need to find him in censuses also.
John Wainwright
Died December quarter 1892 at Wem age 85
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There is a John Wainwright married to Ann living in Wem in censuses, varying places in Shropshire for birth.
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Hi--
Thank you. I will check that out.
Stephen
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Think this is the marriage, so not the same John:
Marriages December quarter 1847
Ann Mellowship Shrewsbury 18 245
John Wainwright Shrewsbury 18 245
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Hello--
Okay. Thanks.
Stephen
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Hello--
Thank you again. I am still looking for a marriage between
William Thompson & Jane/Jenny Wainwright in the 1881-1882
period. I did find Jane Wainwright (b. Moreton Corbet)in the 1881
census in Yorkshire.
Stephen
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Using FreeBMD - September quarter 1881 - St George Hanover Square - William Thompson and Jane Wainwright appear on the same page
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Hello--
That was fast. I will use that myself. I appreciate your help--AGAIN!!
Thanks.
Stephen