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Title: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Friday 20 October 17 16:54 BST (UK)
James Blayney Rice born 1830 died 1908
https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2016/259/169276496_1474060984.jpg

this monument is huge the biggest i have ever seen to a Fenian, John Devoy visited this grave in 1924 and the top of his hat only reaches to where the date of James death is written.(from the Devoy family photograph collection reproduction rights National Library of Ireland) not sure i can post here ?

I would be interested to find if he was arrested in 1865/1866 and imprisioned.
I think he married Catherine Geraghty/Garrity in 1870  Monaghan
not sure if this is him in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Castleshane/Drummuck/1634736/

death cert
425 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05486/4536357.pdf

someone has a small tree done
https://www.geni.com/people/James-Rice/6000000042195378662

any info greatfully appreciated particularly if he was arrested.

Dathai
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 20 October 17 17:09 BST (UK)
Thanks to Google.....

https://www.jstor.org/stable/27695427
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 20 October 17 17:14 BST (UK)

Fenianism in Monaghan. Memoir of James Blayney Rice. With portrait. Personalities of the Fenian Movement and interesting details of activities in Monaghan, 1865-1885.
Main Author:    Rice, Charles T.
Citation:    Clogher record , Vol. I, No. 4, pp. 29-84, 1956
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Friday 20 October 17 17:57 BST (UK)
Thank's Hallmark
                        i had seen that earlier but am unsure as how to access it.
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 20 October 17 18:11 BST (UK)
Thank's Hallmark
                        i had seen that earlier but am unsure as how to access it.

Just read it online free....

You just have to register
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 20 October 17 18:14 BST (UK)
According to 1 source (which I can't find again) the monument was to the Rice family. According to this source they were important in Co. Monaghan. Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa used to visit them. James Blaney Rice's GF took part in 1798 rising.
I like the little dog lying at the front of the monument.
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: Sinann on Friday 20 October 17 18:57 BST (UK)

I like the little dog lying at the front of the monument.
In that setting with harp and round towers not a little dog but a very large Irish Wolfhound

The pike on the left would be in keeping with 1798.
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: Sinann on Friday 20 October 17 19:12 BST (UK)
According to this he spent 8 months in Mountjoy than 2 and half years in exile in America
http://1916societies.com/2017/03/10/tribute-to-tyholland-fenians/
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Friday 20 October 17 19:48 BST (UK)
Thanks Sinann
                     that's what i was looking for ,i was trying to prove if it was him in Mountjoy 1866
''from the New York Public Library''
Top left 1866
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47dc-967b-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

so the 1901 Census i posted i dont think is him
as his children appear to be at home
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Tehallan/Leitrim/1639181/
Charles Thomas was born 1893
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02270/1853027.pdf
Catherine his mother died a few weeks later
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05975/4698745.pdf
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Friday 20 October 17 22:03 BST (UK)
Apologies to Hallmark and Maiden Stone for not replying earlier but my 1 and a half yr old grandson decided to commandeer my lap while i was typing i took my eye off him for a few secs to check something and then noticed he was playing zoom zoom with my wi fi mouse obliterating what i had typed.

thank you both for your help on this topic.

Dathai
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 10:34 BST (UK)
The apple does'nt fall far from the tree

Edward Ross Rice born 26th April 1873      T D and School Teacher
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F511-538

married Bridget Heneghan  ?

https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Eamon%20Rice

witness statement of John McAnerney who referrs to him as grandson of Blaney Rice
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0928.pdf#page=26

died 1937
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1937/04775/4281261.pdf
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 10:56 BST (UK)
Book
.
.
https://books.google.ie/books?id=9lXR5hLDgIcC&pg=PT66&lpg=PT66&dq=Edward+Ross+Rice&source=bl&ots=WtitUGAe8T&sig=u-iZHGjZ4S_Zt_7pPorMw1-hvnA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv4pquuIHXAhXIuhoKHQ5HD28Q6AEIOTAC#v=onepage&q=Edward%20Ross%20Rice&f=false

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Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 11:03 BST (UK)
Witness statement of James Hackett,Tyrone
''I joined the I R B in 1914, Ned Rice who was a schoolteacher in Clogher was Centre ''
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0228.pdf#page=2

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Clogher/Clogher/1726165/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Cloghan/Clogher_Town/855973/

1914 marriage in Dublin of all places Berkley St Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09865/5583126.pdf
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 11:08 BST (UK)
Hallmark that is a fascinating find i look forward to having a read of it now.
Thank you

Dathai
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 11:11 BST (UK)
Hallmark that is a fascinating find i look forward to having a read of it now.
Thank you

Dathai

It says it is a work of fiction......but a lot of "coincidences" in it.
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 11:45 BST (UK)
Dungannon 1910 Mat Donahue,International Falls,Minnesota
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09973/5626077.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Dungannon/Perry_Street/1740043/
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 12:43 BST (UK)
Looks like she fulfilled her wish to bring her nephew Frank Doran to America
appears he left from Londonderry 1911
intended to go to Scotland to visit mother and Ireland to visit uncle Joe Rice 1920
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9XS-1S77?i=17&cc=2185145

what a lovely story .
Title: Re: James Blayney Rice, Fenian.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 13:51 BST (UK)
Looks like she fulfilled her wish to bring her nephew Frank Doran to America
appears he left from Londonderry 1911
intended to go to Scotland to visit mother and Ireland to visit uncle Joe Rice 1920
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9XS-1S77?i=17&cc=2185145

what a lovely story .


It will be interesting to compare it with book...