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Title: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Sunday 22 October 17 23:47 BST (UK)
Anyone pinpoint where this place is/was? I can't seem to find in on any old maps.

Thanks

David
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 08:21 BST (UK)
Could you give an image or link to where you have found the word?
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Monday 23 October 17 12:51 BST (UK)
I've attached three clips from the Stoddesden Parish Registers of the entries where I've found this odd abode. The handwriting is not clear and the abode coulde be Scots, Scotts,  Scatts, or something similar. The family later moved to Chorley/Lower Chorley near Stottesdon, and this is easy to find on the map, so I'm assuming that the "Scots" abode is nearby.
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 14:29 BST (UK)
Have you got them on a census in Stottesdon, to see where The Scotts might be?
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Monday 23 October 17 14:34 BST (UK)
I haven't checked the census yet for an entry for each of them, but later baptisms for the same family give the abode as Chorley, and the 1841 census for William Walker also lists Chorley as his address. This leads me to think that the family moved to Chorley before the 1841 census, and probably before 1830 when daughter Sarah was baptised when the abode was then given as Chorley..
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 14:39 BST (UK)
In the 1881 census, William Powell(born about 1825, Sidbury) age 56 is living at Scotts (Farm)

In the 1871 census Wlm Powell age about 45 is at The Scots.

Look at the images to see the collection of dwellings, and where they are in respect of other buildings.

Added:
There in 1861 also, as son.
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Monday 23 October 17 15:37 BST (UK)
Do you have the census references. My search skills seem to have temporarily absent :-[
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 16:03 BST (UK)
1881
William Powell   56
Sarah Downes   47
William Farmer   17
RG11; Piece: 2627; Folio: 74; Page: 10

1871
Wm Powell   43
John Powell   35
Elizabeth Smith   25
RG10; Piece: 2739; Folio: 68; Page: 11

1861
Charlotte Powell   66
William Powell   34
John Powell   24
RG 9; Piece: 1847; Folio: 74; Page: 12
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Monday 23 October 17 18:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Chempat - I think I've found them. There seems to be a Scot's Farm and Scot's Cottages at the edges of two adjoining maps. Sarah Downes on the 1881 census is one of the names I'm researching.
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 18:55 BST (UK)
East or West of Stottesdon (or North or South)?
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Monday 23 October 17 19:41 BST (UK)
The cottages and farm are to the north east of Stottesdon just east of Chorley Covert. I found them on the nls map site using the Shropshire LXXIII.NE map. The cottages are at the lower edge of one map and the farm at the top edge of the sheet below.
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 21:50 BST (UK)
Thank-you.  I had not looked as far away from Stottesdon as Chorley
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: chempat on Monday 23 October 17 22:12 BST (UK)
I found a planning application map used by Shropshire council:

https://pa.shropshire.gov.uk/online-applications/propertyDetails.do?activeTab=map&keyVal=002JYDTDLI000

You need to zoom out, find the correct area and keep on zooming in, and Scot's House shows - so might still be there. (To the right of High Green on a no-through-road)

Added:
Yes, looks like still there from a google map, just cannot go along the road.
Title: Re: The Scots/Scotts/Scatts, Stottesdon
Post by: mezentia on Tuesday 24 October 17 09:44 BST (UK)
I think I made the same mistake initially thinking that the address was closer to Stottesdon than it is. Thanks for the planing link - I’ll follow  that up  :)