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Title: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: marcie dean on Monday 23 October 17 21:36 BST (UK)
you can have a cousin once removed so why not a half sister?ive juust told my half sisters that they have two half sisters lucy and esther dont know how they will take it these two girlsare 10 yrsyounger than they.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 24 October 17 11:29 BST (UK)
No I don't believe you can have a half sister once removed because there is a common parent. To be once removed the relative would have had a common relative from the previous generation.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: ReadyDale on Tuesday 24 October 17 11:38 BST (UK)
Wouldn't that make them step-nieces?
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: marcie dean on Wednesday 25 October 17 04:17 BST (UK)
no, i dont think so, because they are my stepfathers' daughters' not my sisters' daughters'or even not my sisters daughtershalf siblings daughters, they are my half sisters' halfsisters', I was just being  faceyious,but  facetiousness apart relationships are very strange sometimes!
if on his third marriage he had had more children then maybe my sisters could have claimed them as their half sisters once removed, although logically they would have just been another set of half siblings, I think ,my stepfather was seeking someone who would give him a son, but I think he was only programmed to produce girls. his female sperm were just stronger swimmers and that is that.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 25 October 17 09:26 BST (UK)
I've got a half 2nd cousin once removed.  Her father is my half 2nd cousin, her grandfather my half 1st cousin once removed, and her g.grandmother my half g.aunt.  Her chlidren are my half 2nd cousins twice removed. (According to my Legacy family tree program).

The g.grandmother, is a half sister to my gran - same mother, different father.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 25 October 17 09:29 BST (UK)
Marcie - If they are your stepfather's daughters then they are no relation to you, unless the mother is also your mother, then they would be your half sisters.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: ReadyDale on Wednesday 25 October 17 10:33 BST (UK)
no, i dont think so, because they are my stepfathers' daughters' not my sisters' daughters'or even not my sisters daughtershalf siblings daughters, they are my half sisters' halfsisters', I was just being  faceyious,but  facetiousness apart relationships are very strange sometimes!
OK, so it's a bit more complicated in your case. But the title of your thread is the more general "can you have a half sister once removed?".
If the daughter of a sister is a niece (rather than a sister once removed), then the daughter of a half-sister would be a half-niece. Not sure if that is an official title though.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: groom on Wednesday 25 October 17 11:41 BST (UK)
If all the children have your stepfather as their father then they are not "removed" they are half sisters as they share the same father but a different mother.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 25 October 17 12:50 BST (UK)
Are they not step-sisters? Do your previously known half-sisters share a parent with the newly discovered half-sisters?
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: groom on Wednesday 25 October 17 13:11 BST (UK)
Definition:

Step sister
a daughter of one's step-parent by a marriage other than with one's own father or mother.

Half sister

a sister with whom one has only one parent in common.

So it depends which it is here. Either way they are not removed.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Wednesday 25 October 17 16:20 BST (UK)
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: JohninSussex on Wednesday 25 October 17 20:01 BST (UK)
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Thursday 26 October 17 13:49 BST (UK)
Your diagram illustrates it far better than my wordy account. Thank you, JohninSussex.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: ReadyDale on Thursday 26 October 17 14:56 BST (UK)
And by extension, if A and B had children (G, H,), then A re-married to C, who had had children with D ( M, N, ), then that next generation would be stepchildren to each other..
BUT if B had previously had a child with X, call it T, then surely that child would not really be a relative
of C & D's children, would it?
If A and B have children G,H
and C and D had children M,N
and A remarried C and had further children P,Q

X=====B=====A=====C=====D
   |     |     |     |
   T    G,H   P,Q   M,N


then GH and MN are all half-brothers/half-sisters to PQ, having 1 common parent not 2.
but GH are step-brothers/step-sisters to MN.  They have no common parent at all.  Not blood relations.
T would be G and H's half-sibling, but again no relation to M and N.  I suppose T would be a step-step-sibling or something.
I'll have a consonant please Rachel. And a vowel. Another consonant......... ;D
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: marcie dean on Monday 20 November 17 23:30 GMT (UK)
I know that, just beeing siily, its just that they halfsisters to my half sistersits judst as well i dont thnk he had any chidren wiyh his third wife
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: Greensleeves on Tuesday 21 November 17 12:40 GMT (UK)
My late husband was married twice.  He had two children with his first wife, and one child with me, his second wife.  I had no children with my first husband.

My daughter and his children from his first marriage are half-siblings.
I am step-mother to the children of his first marriage.
Had I had a child from my first marriage, that child and my daughter would be half-siblings, and my husband's elder children would be step-siblings to that child and not actually blood relatives.
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: marcie dean on Wednesday 22 November 17 03:26 GMT (UK)
yesI share in common with my half sisters'my mother, douglas whose dead sarah was my stepfather, but father to my three halfsisters, then he divorced my mother and married vf and had another two daughters, these chidren are both parents children(in other words they are not the products of her having a previous relationship, so they are my half sisters' half sisters, and no relation to me. this I know but it was fun testing it out. its a shame that t does not see that it could be good if she would just embrace it and make friends with them l & e as they all have the same surname although my three sisters are no all marriedand are about 10 years older than their half sisters'
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 22 November 17 12:15 GMT (UK)
You can have her removed as many times as you wish, but if she keeps coming back then you may as well keep her

 ;D
Title: Re: can you have a half sister once removed?
Post by: marcie dean on Sunday 26 November 17 20:54 GMT (UK)
like it david