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Title: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Wednesday 25 October 17 02:41 BST (UK)
Hi

Marriage:
William Ellis & Sarah Roe - 16 Jul 1809
St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk

First child looks to be William Roe Ellis b./bap 1810 St Nicholas, Gr Yarmouth.

Looking for birth details for William Sr. & Sarah.

Many thanks
Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: solidrock on Wednesday 25 October 17 02:57 BST (UK)
Hi, there is a tree on FamilySearch K692-NJS. William b ​ c1784. Sarah b c1788. both in Great Yarmouth.
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Wednesday 25 October 17 03:10 BST (UK)
Hi, there is a tree on FamilySearch K692-NJS. William b ​ c1784. Sarah b c1788. both in Great Yarmouth.

Hi

Many thanks for that, I'll check it out.

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: solidrock on Wednesday 25 October 17 03:14 BST (UK)
FreeReg Baptism.

William Ellis. baptised 08 Aug 1786. St Nicholas. Gt. Yarmouth. born 06 Aug 1786. father Robert.  mother Susan.
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Wednesday 25 October 17 03:48 BST (UK)
FreeReg Baptism.

William Ellis. baptised 08 Aug 1786. St Nicholas. Gt. Yarmouth. born 06 Aug 1786. father Robert.  mother Susan.

Many thanks again. Fly in the ointment is another William b. 1787 [St Nicholas], parents = John & Abigail. That said the tree looks good and supports a lot of info I am aware of after the marriage.

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Wednesday 25 October 17 04:25 BST (UK)
Unable to pin down Sarah's birth, there are 5 possibles on FreeReg, though 2 are probably a little too far away..

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: solidrock on Wednesday 25 October 17 04:37 BST (UK)
I could'nt find a birth for Sarah either. View FamilySearch trees with caution unless there are citations for the records.
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 25 October 17 09:07 BST (UK)
FreeReg Baptism.

William Ellis. baptised 08 Aug 1786. St Nicholas. Gt. Yarmouth. born 06 Aug 1786. father Robert.  mother Susan.

Many thanks again. Fly in the ointment is another William b. 1787 [St Nicholas], parents = John & Abigail. That said the tree looks good and supports a lot of info I am aware of after the marriage.

Geoff

It's possible (and happened frequently at the time) that the first baby died and then when the next one arrived the parents gave it the name of the deceased baby.
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 25 October 17 14:38 BST (UK)
Do you have William/Sarah in 1841/1851 Census?
Or Burials for them?

I can find several Children Great Yarmouth to a William/Sarah on one Susannah 1825 William is a Shipwright.
Is that the correct William?

1841 Census
Great Yarmouth
Willm Ellis, 50, Shipwright
Ann Ellis, 45

1851 this William is born c 1787 Great Yarmouth, Occp Shipwright.
Wife Anne.

1861  same details.

FreeREG has a SARAH Ellis Burial 15 Nov 1835 St Nicholas, age 50****

So this found by solidrock appears to be the one above;
William Ellis. baptised 08 Aug 1786. St Nicholas. Gt. Yarmouth. born 06 Aug 1786. father Robert.  mother Susan.

Baptisms;
WILLIAM ROE Ellis 10 Jan 1810, Birth 7 Jan 1810
ROBERT Ellis 9 April 1812
ELEANOR Ellis 15 Aug 1814 (Father a Shipwright)
MARY ANNE Ellis 11 Oct 1819 (Shipwright)
SUSANNAH Ellis 25 Sept 1825 (Shipwright)

Susannah married John AMESS 1848, Father William, Shipwright

Trish :)

Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Sunday 29 October 17 01:01 GMT (UK)


It's possible (and happened frequently at the time) that the first baby died and then when the next one arrived the parents gave it the name of the deceased baby.
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Thanks, Lizzie.. Something to ponder..

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Sunday 29 October 17 01:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Trish..

Yes, the 1835 death for Sarah is what I have, but not proven..

And William looks to have remarried [Ann, no marriage found] before 1841, that census does look right for age [rounded down] and he was a Shipwright.

The 1851 & 61 look right also..

Offspring also as I have..

The birth that Solidrock found looks good, but as I mentioned in an earlier post there is another with parents = John & Abigail 1787.

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Sunday 29 October 17 02:28 GMT (UK)
Possible death for William..

1865 Yarmouth 4B, 9

Age = 78 [GRO]

Geoff
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 29 October 17 06:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Geoff,

William does not name a child John or Abigail but does name children Robert/Susan.
So to me more likely his Parents names.
Title: Re: William Ellis & Sarah Roe
Post by: horse000 on Sunday 29 October 17 07:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Trish

Yeah... I do 'mither' a bit trying to get the detail correct.. You are right and I have now penciled them in. Given that it is only one of two, not a disaster and easy to rectify should anything arise... The naming 'pattern' does give Robert & Susan an edge.

Many thanks
Geoff