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Title: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: Racyene on Thursday 26 October 17 10:22 BST (UK)
Emmanuel Moore Taylor in ?  Oronseb? (Parish I presume )

I cannot find which parish this is.
Elizabeth Moore from Whittechapell

Clandestine marriage 1710

Many thanks
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 26 October 17 10:50 BST (UK)
I think the word starts Bron/ Brom
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: Racyene on Thursday 26 October 17 10:52 BST (UK)
That's a good suggestion, thanks . I will have another search
Dj
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: Rattus on Thursday 26 October 17 11:05 BST (UK)
Agree with PaulineJ, I saw it as a B and have been looking for possibilities.

A bad/phonetic spelling of Brondesbury? (I don't have much confidence in this suggestion.)

Is the preceding squiggle a very rushed "St" (i.e. Saint)?
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 26 October 17 11:08 BST (UK)
The missing word is "ye".  I don't think that the initial letter is "B" - compare it with the occupation of Basketmaker (3 entries after Emanuel).  Perhaps Oronzebe is either a foreign destination, or even perhaps part of the Fleet Prison.  And I believe that Emanuel's surname is More, and that Taylor is his occupation.
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 26 October 17 11:12 BST (UK)
Hey - he's not a Taylor, he's a Saylor and Oronzebe is the name of the ship.  Compare with this snip from the same page.
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 26 October 17 11:16 BST (UK)
Quote
- he's not a Taylor, he's a Saylor and Oronzebe is the name of the ship

Agreed. I was just about to post a similar comment.
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: Rattus on Thursday 26 October 17 11:16 BST (UK)
Nice work BumbleB. Ship mentioned here:


https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MBoXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA424&lpg=PA424&dq=oronzebe&source=bl&ots=2ZAFDokZhq&sig=q0nuUZYvQfviyFxTKyG-1jBLDYk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYw8SPh47XAhWLbFAKHWTGABAQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=oronzebe&f=false (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MBoXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA424&lpg=PA424&dq=oronzebe&source=bl&ots=2ZAFDokZhq&sig=q0nuUZYvQfviyFxTKyG-1jBLDYk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYw8SPh47XAhWLbFAKHWTGABAQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=oronzebe&f=false)
Title: Re: Marriage - identify a word please
Post by: Racyene on Thursday 26 October 17 11:39 BST (UK)
Wow everyone,

Thank you BumbleB. I found the Oronzebe on a German website but dismissed it !!

No wonder it was Clandestine wedding ...a Saylor indeed 😉

Thank you all so much