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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: TwiggyTree on Friday 27 October 17 07:52 BST (UK)
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Ok, I am throwing my hands up in the air and would rather be looking at a stereogram.
I have a Jakob GUCKERT who immigrated to New Zealand around 1862 according to his death record but I haven't been able to find his passage.
I have looked at the German shipping/archive database (HADIS) for the area that he was born but that only shows some of his relatives leaving for the USA some years later.
I looked at the Family Search shipping database for New Zealand but can't seem to find him under any permutations of his name.
The fellow was based in and around the Nelson area so this is a probable port of destination.
What other resources are there for this time period?
I did find a list of ships but no individualised lists: http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/shipping/mig-nz2.htm
Are you able to help me find this man please?
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I note that he died on the West Coast, and was a goldminer. 1862 was the year of the gold rush in Otago......did he go there first? A lot of miners moved from Otago to the Coast, when the rush developed there.
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Thanks Johnf04. That is a good question.
There doesn't seem to be anything between his arrival date and his first marriage at 50 years old in 1883.
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Hi Twiggy,
Just wondering what resources the Rootschatters on the Europe Board might have at their fingertips to help with finding the passage ... may never know until you ask.
Cheers
KHP
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Thanks KHP.
I only just thought of that when I was typing the OP.
EDIT:
Have started a topic there now: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781478 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781478)
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FindMyPast has a Jacob GUCKERT aged 28yrs arriving in New York City in 1854.
I know the age is not quite right but it is a maybe
The ship looks like the R C Wintrop
Cheers Janette
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Here is the ship from Le Harve
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~belgintheamcivwar/Emigrants%20Ships/shipliste1854.htm
Cheers Janette
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Thanks Janette for the fresh perspective.
I believe there might have been one or two of the similar names who did go to the USA; and it's not beyond comprehension I guess that this one used that passage route either.
The relatives to the USA went in 1858, 1859 and 1867, but all from the one regional area thereby appearing in the HADIS database I talked about.
Perhaps this fellow voyaged to visit a family member and then carried on to NZ?
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There is an advertisement in an Adelaide german newspaper, from 1881, for a letter held at the GPO for Jacob GUCKERT.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229123003?searchTerm=Guckert&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom|||dateTo|||sortby
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Johnf04 ....interesting....
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From a West Coast newspaper.....
Another spelling?
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/GRA18900925.2.6.5?query=%20gukert
There are a few items with this spelling.
Minniehaha.
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Will bear that in mind. Family Search employs a wide variation of soundex searches (even Guggert) but regardless hasn't thrown light on this man's entry into NZ waters. The correct spelling remains GUCKERT.
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There are still untranscribed shipping documents, on Family Search. Around the time of the gold rush in Otago, too, there are ship arrivals with no passenger records. My wife's great grandfather arrived in 1864, in Otago, and we only found the ship name from later newspaper stories about him. There doesn't appear to be a passenger record for him.
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Have you checked Jakob's 1883 naturalisation papers, at Wellington Archives? If they still have his application, there may be more information about his arrival.
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Johnf04
I went delving into the envelope sent me from a relative and it does have a few pages from the Naturalisation file. I am unsure if it is complete or not. It suggests he was resident for 25 years in 1883.
Twiggy