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Title: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: SecondLife on Friday 27 October 17 17:36 BST (UK)
Just wondered if anybody had this man in their tree, I have him born c1796 in Rochford, Essex and married to a Sarah.  His parents were, I believe, John Kemp and Susanna but other than that I cannot find out anything about him.  Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: emeltom on Friday 27 October 17 19:08 BST (UK)
If you don't have him in the 1841 Census he is living in Strood Green, Rochford with Sarah and children Thomas 16, William 14, Charlotte 10 and Mary 7
HO107/337/17/f42/p5

In 1851 Sarah is still living in the same place but is now a widow
HO107/1777/F382/p35

There is a death reg for a Joseph Kemp

June 1842 Rochford vol 12 p 150 aged 49 which gives a yob as 1793 which is reasonably close to 1796.

Emeltom
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 27 October 17 21:23 BST (UK)
 ??? Hi if you do not know the maiden name of Sarah, how do you know the Joseph in 1841 census is a Joseph Tawke Kemp?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: amondg on Saturday 28 October 17 06:05 BST (UK)
Non Conformist Church Rochford
Joseph Tawke Kemp born 19 October 1796 bap 29 December 1796 of John and Susanna of Great Stanbridge Essex.

On the next page is Mary Ann Kemp born 17 June 1798 bap 15 July 1798 also of John and Susanna of Great Stanbridge/Stambridge.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: amondg on Saturday 28 October 17 06:22 BST (UK)
He had a lot more brothers and sisters.
John Abbott Kemp born 9 February 1794 bap 25 March 1794 of Rochford
Susanna Kemp born 5 June 1795 bap 1 November 1795 of Rochford

They then moved to Great Stambridge but attended the same church.
Joseph 1796 in previous post
Mary Ann 1798 previous post

Susanna Kemp born 12 January 1800 bap 17 February 1800
Rachel Adams Kemp born 11 August 1801 bap 8 September 1801
Frederick Kemp born 12 March 1803 bap 15 April 1803
Emma Kemp born 25 December 1805 bap 28 January 1806
Alfred Kemp born 12 June 1807 bap 11 August 1807 (writing awkward my interpretation as Alfred)
Joseph Kemp born 9 November 1808 bap (11) December 1808 the word dead is written next to his name but in different handwriting so need to check.
George Tawke Kemp born 17 March 1810 bap 5 July 1810
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: SecondLife on Saturday 28 October 17 07:08 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, this name Tawke keeps popping up and there are some very interesting accounts with that name but cannot tie them in.  I am very grateful for the help you have given.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: amondg on Saturday 28 October 17 07:31 BST (UK)
Dr. Williams Library registered a number of the children 30 June 1820, giving the father as John Kemp and mother as Susanna Stonard daughter of James and Susanna Stonard.

John Abbot
Mary Ann
Susanna (1800)
Rachel Adams
Frederick
Emma
George Tawke
PLUS one I didn't find in the other register
EDWIN born 19 April 1804

Since they had 2 children named Joseph 1796 and 1808 the original Joseph you asked about had died before 1808.
Susanna 1795 has died before 1800.
The second Joseph 1808 and Alfred 1807 are also missing from Dr. Williams list so are no doubt
already deceased by 30 June 1820.

****So if your ancestor is Joseph Tawke Kemp married Sarah then I think you need to find a brother of John who gave his children the same names.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: amondg on Saturday 28 October 17 07:39 BST (UK)
Possible lines to search.

John Durrival Kemp died 1810 his will written  27 February 1810 proved 26 July 1810, he was of Little Stambridge.
To be interred at Prittlewell next to his late mother Martha Kemp.
Wife Mary
sons John, Robert, Henry.
daughters Eliza, Louisa, Mira wife of John (Hardwick)? and Mary wife of Samuel Richardson of Reading.

The John Kemp of previous posts may be the son of this John Kemp, which gives you brother Henry and Robert to follow.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 28 October 17 11:29 BST (UK)
If you don't have him in the 1841 Census he is living in Strood Green, Rochford with Sarah and children Thomas 16, William 14, Charlotte 10 and Mary 7
HO107/337/17/f42/p5

In 1851 Sarah is still living in the same place but is now a widow
HO107/1777/F382/p35

There is a death reg for a Joseph Kemp

June 1842 Rochford vol 12 p 150 aged 49 which gives a yob as 1793 which is reasonably close to 1796.

Emeltom

This Sarah was born in Prittlewell so looking at Prittlewell marriages

Joseph Kemp of Cranham in this county married Sarah Lacell  otp at P'well on 15 Jun 1817 by licence with consent of her mother. Both made their mark. witnesses: John Gadward and W Heard.

There is a baptism in Barling (where son John was born) for a Susan illeg dau of Sarah Lacell servant on 13 Feb 1816 and also bapt of Eliza d/o Joseph and Sarah Kemp 25 Oct 1818 and John bapt 3 Dec 1820 s/ Joseph and Sarah Kemp and Thomas  bapt 16 jun 1822 s/o Joseph and Sarah Kemp.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 28 October 17 11:44 BST (UK)
Sarah's year of birth is abt 1791 from 1851 census. The nearest baptism I can find in Prittlewell is:
"Sarah daughter of John and Sarah Lacell was born April 6th 1788, privately baptised and registered April 24th 1788 by J Archer Curate. This child was fully baptised January 5th 1789."
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 28 October 17 11:54 BST (UK)
He had a lot more brothers and sisters.
John Abbott Kemp born 9 February 1794 bap 25 March 1794 of Rochford
Susanna Kemp born 5 June 1795 bap 1 November 1795 of Rochford

They then moved to Great Stambridge but attended the same church.
Joseph 1796 in previous post
Mary Ann 1798 previous post

Susanna Kemp born 12 January 1800 bap 17 February 1800
Rachel Adams Kemp born 11 August 1801 bap 8 September 1801
Frederick Kemp born 12 March 1803 bap 15 April 1803
Emma Kemp born 25 December 1805 bap 28 January 1806
Alfred Kemp born 12 June 1807 bap 11 August 1807 (writing awkward my interpretation as Alfred)
Joseph Kemp born 9 November 1808 bap (11) December 1808 the word dead is written next to his name but in different handwriting so need to check.
George Tawke Kemp born 17 March 1810 bap 5 July 1810

Burial Great Stambridge

Joseph son of John and Susannah Kemp on 29 August 1805. Looks like the one bapt as Joseph Tawke Kemp

Second Joseph s/o John and Susanna Kemp buried at GS on 8 June 1809.

So neither can be husband of Sarah Lacell and appear on 1841 census.
Title: Re: Joseph Tawke KEMP
Post by: SecondLife on Saturday 28 October 17 14:23 BST (UK)
wow, I am so very grateful for all of this, he has been a bugbear for some time now and I decided to tackle him again, you have given me so much to think about, many thanks  ;D