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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Valsgirl on Sunday 29 October 17 04:17 GMT (UK)
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About 1950's early 1960's, the late Emmett sisters, managed, or maybe owned, a bakery shop in Christchurch, on Shirley Road, near Marshland Road corner, opposite Shirley Intermediate School.
I believe these ladies could be daughters of Arthur William Emmett, who farmed land around Quinns Road & owned houses in North Parade, Shirley, Christchurch.
A W Emmett died in 1948, aged abt. 87 years. His children are all deceased.
I'm researching the shop owners & their family history, as a genealogy group project.
Can anyone remember the Christian names of the shopkeeper sisters, please?
Two possibles are Ruth Emmett 1910 - 1987 and her sister Gertrude 1893 - ?. Both these ladies never married. Recorded as spinsters on the electoral rolls, so no help re their occupation.
Thank you,
Valsgirl
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Arthur William married twice?
1909/6684 Frances Sarah Brading Arthur William Emmett
1890/113 Jane Dellow Arthur William Emmett
Minniehaha.
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Death of first wife [Jane].......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS19070711.2.45?query=jane%20emmett
Their children:
1900/5040 Emmett John Dellow Jane Arthur William -
1894/5763 Emmett Arnold Jane Arthur William -
1891/15028 Emmett Louisa Jane Arthur William -
1893/4016 Emmett Gertrude Jane Arthur William -
1895/7544 Emmett Eleanor Mary Jane Arthur William -
1897/17452 Emmett Edwin Arthur Jane Arthur William
Minniehaha.
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And children of the second family......
1910/2965 Emmett Ruth Frances Sarah Arthur William -
1913/23778 Emmett Beryl Frances Frances Sarah Arthur William -
1916/4119 Emmett Leicester Samuel Frances Sarah Arthur William
Minniehaha.
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Thank you for your reply, Minniehaha,
I have all those details from NZ bmd, Electoral rolls, papers past, etc.
Just need to prove that I've the correct family & if so, would like to know who mamaged the shop.
Probably a query that could only be answered by a local resident, or an Emmett descendant.
I might try a Christchurch family history group, or Library.
When "The Palms" shopping centre was build, on Marshland Road, Christchurch, corner, the little shopping centre, including Emmett's Bakery went. Just memories left.
I appreciate you takling time to research.
Cheers,
Valsgirl
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I will ask my Uncle for you. Nana just lived in the council flats right next door to where the palms mall is now.
Give me a day and I will get back one way or the other.
Suzy W
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That would be great, Suzy W.
I once lived on Marshland Road and as a Shirley Intermediate pupil, was occassionally allowed to buy my lunch at Emmett's. They served huge icecreams for 4d also!
Many thanks.
Valsgirl
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Sorry, my uncle only remembers the ladies working there, but not their names.
Have you tried Canterbury Museum or Archives in Town?
Suzy W
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Thank you Suzy W,
Good suggestions, but as I now live in Australia, have to rely on online transscriptions, and helpful forums. Did look at Archway site, but only found probates on there.
On Ancestry site, last night, I found Ms. Ruth Emmett listed in "NZ City & Area Directories 1953-1954" as "frtr" (guess Fruiterer) 83 Shirley Road, Christchurch. This looks very promising.
No mention of Gertrude Emmett, born Christchurch NZ in 1893. I wondered if the two single sisters Ruth & Gertrude Emmett may have been "my ladies". Gertrude is on electoral rolls as a spinster until 1949, when I lose her. This coincides with her father's 1948 death, so I tried looking for a marriage or travel, with no luck.
Understandably, a 10 yr old child would remember the buns, fruit pies and ice creams, but not the fruit!
Many thanks to you & your Uncle.
Valsgirl
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Could this be Gertrude? Marriage 1950 to Sidney Turner.
Gertrude dying 1976 aged 83 and Sidney 1973 aged 69, both at Memorial Park.
Sidney much younger than Gertrude.
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Gertrude's death age is correct, and married after Dad dies - possibly caring for him. That all looks feasible, Suzy W.
Where did you find the marriage date, please?
Big thanks!
Valsgirl
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Little box of tricks. Marriage C.D for NZ. Only goes to 1956.
Grave site
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Gertrude-Turner/17097385
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So it is magic! You are a gem, Suzy W.
Electoral rolls tell me Gertrude and Sidney Turner live at 190 Petrie Str. Father A.W. Emmett leaves this property to Gertrude in his Will. Proof you have found the correct marriage.
Think I can let Ruth & Gertrude Emmett rest now.
I really appreciate your help. Again many thanks.
Valsgirl
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Completed, thank you
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Glad to help. ;D
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Hi'
I amy be able to help.
I am the great grandaughter of Arthur William Emmett. My grandfather was Edwin William Emmett.
I was born on the dairy farm in Marshlands Road in 1958.
Ruth Emmett and Gertrude Emmett did run the corner dairy shop. Ruth was a spinster and Gertrude went on to marry after her father died as he didn't approve of her choice of beau.
I have Arthur's will and he was a shrewd and harsh business man.
He did marry twice and I am decended from Jane [nee Dellows] Emmett.
Hope that helps' albeit a bit late.
Kellygang.
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Thank you for your reply, Deborah Jane,
You confirmed my thoughts about the Emmett sisters and their wonderful shop on Shirley Rd, Christchurch.
Our little genealogy group, in Brisbane, Australia, choses a topic to research each month. Back when I first posted this query the task was to select a local shopkeeper from our childhood town and research the family. From my previous posts you'll see how much I looked forward to occassionally being allowed to buy my lunch, while attending Shirley Intermediate School ,or selecting an ice cream flavour - OK, usually hokey pokey - when Mum had a spare 4d in her purse.
Cheers,
Valsgirl
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This was very cool to read
This is my family
I've spent some time looking into my Dads side of the family because I dont know much about them.
We actually lived in north parade in 2000. I didn't know family had been there before
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Hi everybody,
I currently live at 30 hewlings street, shirley
I have been doing research on this home and have stumbled upon this thread. I am just looking for any photos of my property or any more info?
from my reasearch I understand this house is the farmhouse of arthur emmett