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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: HermitCedar on Sunday 29 October 17 21:05 GMT (UK)
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Hello!
If anyone is able, I would really appreciate some help looking up someone!
I'm trying to find more on my great, great grandfather, Thomas Wilson. He was born in Monaghan around 1860... 1860 seems to be the most reasonable guess.
All else I know about him is that, at some point, he moved to England and married Elizabeth Wylie Rodie in Liverpool, England, in 1884.
He had 2 children I know of... Susan McPherson Wilson, born 1885 in Kirkdale, Liverpool and James Wilson, born 1888 in Kirkdale, Liverpool.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to find out more?
Thank you in advance!
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Do you have his marriage Cert it may show his fathers name. As he was born c 1860 there will not be a Civil birth (started in 1864) so you will have to rely on baptism record. What denomination was
Thomas?
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Do you have his marriage Cert it may show his fathers name. As he was born c 1860 there will not be a Civil birth (started in 1864) so you will have to rely on baptism record. What denomination was
Thomas?
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Sadly, I don't have any of that information. All I wrote down is all that I have.
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from a quick look at Ancestry stuff:
The 1891 census says he was born in Monaghan and Elizabeth was born in Scotland. It's sort of hard to read, but looks like Wigtonshire.(?) The children at that stage were Susan M aged 5 and James aged 2.
From the 1871 Scotland census, her parents were Thomas and Elizabeth.
She died in 1939 and left something to a David Henry Wilson.
An attached family tree on Ancestry has Thomas born 27 Aug 1859 in Belfast, but not exactly citing sources on that. If you are not a member, it might be worth getting a free trial and having a look yourself.
The same tree lists Thomas' parents as James (1840-) and Emily (1844-) but you know, pinch of salt and all that without proof.
Apologies, I see most of this is on another thread you have.
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
Hello - where did you find all of that info and how?! That's a lot more than I was able to dig up!
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
So I have now found that James's father was George (I found the marriage cert from James/Elizabeth Scott's wedding). Elizabeth's father is listed as John Scott.
From there, I suppose, I don't really know what to do/how to proceed. I can't seem to find anything, at least with the methods I know about, pertaining to James's birthday or any relevant birth records.
Thoughts, anyone?
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from a quick look at Ancestry stuff:
The 1891 census says he was born in Monaghan and Elizabeth was born in Scotland. It's sort of hard to read, but looks like Wigtonshire.(?) The children at that stage were Susan M aged 5 and James aged 2.
From the 1871 Scotland census, her parents were Thomas and Elizabeth.
She died in 1939 and left something to a David Henry Wilson.
An attached family tree on Ancestry has Thomas born 27 Aug 1859 in Belfast, but not exactly citing sources on that. If you are not a member, it might be worth getting a free trial and having a look yourself.
The same tree lists Thomas' parents as James (1840-) and Emily (1844-) but you know, pinch of salt and all that without proof.
Apologies, I see most of this is on another thread you have.
Not a problem, I greatly appreciate your willingness to help me out!!
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
Hey everyone,
Any other thoughts on this? I know now from the Thomas Wilson and Elizabeth Scott marriage cert that Thomas's father's name was apparently George, but I am totally stuck on any further details :/
Thanks!
Camden
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Religion?
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
It is a pity they don't mention Townland!
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Parents of Thomas given as James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott. Thomas born in Clontibret Monaghan 27th August 1859. Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) James listed as widowed on this marriage
www.nationalarchives.ie Griffith Valuation records has a James Wilson in Parish of Clontibret Monaghan in 1860 Townland of Letterbane.
It is a pity they don't mention Townland!
I wish I knew their religion and etc. This is the extent of the info I have on this line :/
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Looks like they weren't RC.... Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 not here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632619#page/8/mode/1up
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Yes Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) is a bit vague and no source quoted.
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Yes Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) is a bit vague and no source quoted.
I actually found that on rootsireland - so I do have that record at least
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I have Tynan C of I photographed on IGP....
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Only 2 Wilsons on war memorial plaque.... http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/armagh/photos/tombstones/armagh-tynan-coi/
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I have Tynan C of I photographed on IGP....
Hi, sorry, I don't understand what this means?
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I included a link to igp in my post
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Some people when they visit a Cemetery take some photos that might help others....
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm
Click on any County....then Headstones
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Yes Marriage of James Wilson & Elizabeth Scott 23 Jan 1857 in Tynan Armagh (this place about 10miles from Monaghan) is a bit vague and no source quoted.
On second thought, this may not be correct.
I just got Thomas Wilson's wedding cert from Liverpool. It says he was 23 in 1884, making his birth year ~1861, not the 1859 birth that I found.
His father is listed as James Wilson, deceased at the time.
I can't find any Thomas Wilson with James Wilson as a father born in Ireland in 1861 with a couple year filter on either end.
Hrm......
Any thoughts?