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Title: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 01:24 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   I am looking for the grave of my great grandmother whose name was Mary Ann Murton who is buried in Cheriton Road Cemetery.  She was born in 1851 and died 8th Feb 1918. She is buried in Section A, Grave No. 508, Interment record 1478.  On her grave record it says she died in York House, Cheriton Gardens but her body was brought from 8 Brockman Road, Folkstone.  Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 01 November 17 07:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat

You appear to have the grave details, I am not sure exactly what you are looking for. 

There are a few web pages that have information on this cemetery & graves

http://www.fofc.uk/ 

https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Folkestone-Cheriton-Road-Cemetery/169149

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2147603

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/cemetery.php?cemetery=721

https://www.shepway.gov.uk/community/births-marriages-and-deaths/funerals

Rosie
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Rattus on Wednesday 01 November 17 08:06 GMT (UK)
Hi zodiac88 and welcome to RootChat. Still relatively new here myself.

As Rosie99 says, you already have the type of info that most people are looking for.

Can you be more specific about what help you need, e.g. headstone picture (because you might live a long way away and can't visit), help with locating the plot within the cemetery (because you've been there and can't find it), etc.

Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 10:14 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
     Sorry for being a bit vague but I only found this site very early this morning after searching all evening for my great grandmothers final resting place.
     I live in Dartford so I will visit her grave if I can find exactly where in the graveyard it is and if there is a gravestone to mark it. I realise that some older graves were never marked but I am hoping hers is.
      I am just hoping that if someone lives close to the cemetery that they could possibly check this for me, as I know from my research into WW1/2 graves even when you know the grave ref. it is not always easy to find a grave in a big cemetery.
      Thank you all for your help and I will return the favour if anyone needs any help with finding a grave local to me.   Cheers, Colin.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Rattus on Wednesday 01 November 17 10:27 GMT (UK)
I have Kent connections but I don't live in the area anymore so can't help out with practical action. However, here's some info & advice.

As for 1) whether there is a headstone, and 2) how to find the plot within the cemetery, I've always found that the best advance preparation is to e-mail or phone the local cemetery team. I've had so much helpful advice from various teams around the country.

https://www.shepway.gov.uk/community/births-marriages-and-deaths/funerals (https://www.shepway.gov.uk/community/births-marriages-and-deaths/funerals)

"The Business Support team are responsible for  the administration of cemeteries and interments. You can view the plans and burial registers for all cemeteries at the Council's offices."

If there is a headstone, you might want to take a soft brush and bucket/bowl with you when you go. (I've never been to a cemetery that didn't have a tap.) From personal experience I can tell you that if you want to clean muck off a headstone, pocket tissues are not the answer.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hi
Cheriton Road Cemetery from Dartford
M20 to junction 12
3rd exit from roundabout and head straight on through two sets of traffic lights.
After you go through the second set of lights about 500 yards, lay by on right hand side right in front of the entrance
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 13:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Colin
I am involved with Shepway so know a few people there
Dannielle the burials officer is sending me an xls spreadsheet of the cemetery
So if you Pm Me your email i can forward it to you
Regards Nigel
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Rattus on Wednesday 01 November 17 13:37 GMT (UK)
Colin - excuse me if you already know this, but something often missed by new members is that you don't get access to the PM (private message) features of RootsChat until you've made three posts. It's an anti-spam thing. At the time of writing you have made two. Do another reply to this thread and you should then have access to private messaging to contact Nigel. Cheers.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 01 November 17 13:57 GMT (UK)
Information on the personal message system here

http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 14:45 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
     Sorry I did not know this, thanks for pointing this out.   
                       Regards Colin.
                 
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 14:48 GMT (UK)
Colin I would redact the Email address from your post
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 14:52 GMT (UK)
Colin
Have received the spreadsheet
and it's as clear as mud so have asked Danielle for some directions as the cemetery is huge
soon as I have clarity on where the grave is will pop up and find it and take a photo of what and if anything is there
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 15:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,
    Thank you so much for that, very kind of you.
                        Regards, Colin.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 15:29 GMT (UK)
Colin
have now found out where
copy of spreadsheet attached looks very sparse on gravestones in this area
but hopefully will take a look tomorrow
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ow0r6lywkc7tie7/Copy%20of%20Cheriton%20Road%20plan%20-%20plot%20layout%20%26%20sheets.xls?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ow0r6lywkc7tie7/Copy%20of%20Cheriton%20Road%20plan%20-%20plot%20layout%20%26%20sheets.xls?dl=0)
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 16:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Yes you could be right, there might not be any gravestone at all.  Would be nice if there was, but any help would be appreciated.
                                     Thanks, Colin.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 01 November 17 16:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Colin

When you have a few moments, it might be worthwhile reading our guidelines for posting as you're a new member here.

http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php

Dawn
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 17:11 GMT (UK)
thank you Dawn.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:28 GMT (UK)
Don't know if the first link came out properly
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AiBh8MmZ_OB51F1ZWje3M3jcSsvo (https://1drv.ms/x/s!AiBh8MmZ_OB51F1ZWje3M3jcSsvo)
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Wednesday 01 November 17 23:52 GMT (UK)
Yes it did, thank you.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Friday 03 November 17 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Colin
Been up to Cheriton Cemetery today
Some good news, some bad and a bonus!
Good news is Mary has a headstone and surround
Bad news is the stone has been vandalised (they had a spate of this about 5 years ago)
But the stone is intact although broken from it's base so repairable if you so wish
The Bonus is in the photo's attached will let you look first and then explain
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiBh8MmZ_OB51GIO8QGpEoBv38DO (https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiBh8MmZ_OB51GIO8QGpEoBv38DO)
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Friday 03 November 17 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   I am curious now to know who Henry Brodie Morton is knowing she is Mary Ann Murton?
               Let me know more please.
                                Regards, Colin.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Friday 03 November 17 21:00 GMT (UK)
And strangely was only seven graves along on the same row, with the way names changed in the 19th  century just saw it as I walked away from Mary Ann's
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Friday 03 November 17 21:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
False alarm on Henry
traced him to Sandgate in 1871 unmarried And living on his Dividends
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: zodiac88 on Friday 03 November 17 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Yes, the names are very close as are their graves. Thank you so much for checking and taking the photo's of Mary's grave, I am just researching more of Mary's relatives, there are many as she was married three times and then I will look into having her gravestone repaired.  Seems a shame that a gravestone can last nearly a hundred years only to be damaged by idiots, but we live in hope.
      Once again thank you for the photo's and your help in finding her grave. I will visited her grave soon.   
                               Regards, Colin.
Title: Re: Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkstone
Post by: Dyingout on Friday 03 November 17 23:01 GMT (UK)
Yes and the gravestone is a lovely piece of white marble too
have seen the way they repair them with stainless rods and epoxy you can hardly see the join.
If you do need any other info or photos done give me a shout on Pm