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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Indaloman on Wednesday 01 November 17 08:03 GMT (UK)
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Hannah Knight christened 31 March 1816 at the Above Bar AND St Mary's Southampton! How is this possible?
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What sources did you use?
often its misleading descriptions of the lds film, or original parish register + the bishops transcripts.
Provide links if you have them for this sort of query.
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I have just found yhe Above Bar Baptismal Register entry so this must be the right one
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Have a read of this recent topic:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781669.
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Above Bar Church was non-conformist (see http://asaurc.org.uk/church-archives/the-history-of-above-bar-church/) while St Mary's was Church of England.
I have one family who baptised their children as Methodist and C of E. Perhaps they were hedging their bets ???
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I don't think there is any rule against being baptised more than once, even in the same religious denomination. It was once common for newborn infants to be baptised by a nurse in the maternity hospital if they were not expected to survive. If they did survive they could be baptised later in a church. That happened to my grandmother, who not only survived but lived to be 89.
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We don't live in those times, but when you read about non-conformist churches -v- the official Anglican church, there was a lot of political clout affecting the man in the street. It could be that parents didn't want their child's future to be affected and had them baptised in a manner they thought fit. If anyone saw one of the family history programmes they'll remember one Catholic Vicar saying he saw his catholic parishioners getting married again in the Protestant church across the way in order to get employment at a time when employers wouldn't give jobs to catholics.
"Parliament had imposed a series of disabilities on Nonconformists that prevented them from holding most public offices, that required them to pay local taxes to the Anglican church, be married by Anglican ministers, and be denied attendance at Oxford or degrees at Cambridge. Dissenters demanded removal of political and civil disabilities that applied to them (especially those in the Test and Corporation Acts). The Anglican establishment strongly resisted until 1828.The Test Act of 1673 made it illegal for anyone not receiving communion in the Church of England to hold office under the crown. The Corporation Act of 1661 did likewise for offices in municipal government. In 1732, Nonconformists in the City of London created an association, the Dissenting Deputies to secure repeal of the Test and Corporation acts. The Deputies became a sophisticated pressure group, and worked with liberal Whigs to achieve repeal in 1828. It was a major achievement for an outside group, but the Dissenters were not finished."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonconformist
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I should have added that there is no particular religious qualification for baptising someone. You just pick up the child, write a cross on the forehead with a finger dipped in water, and say "I name this child Horace", or whatever.
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Rena That is most interesting, thank you. Things don't change much in the name of religion do they?
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I don't think there is any rule against being baptised more than once, even in the same religious denomination. It was once common for newborn infants to be baptised by a nurse in the maternity hospital if they were not expected to survive. If they did survive they could be baptised later in a church. That happened to my grandmother, who not only survived but lived to be 89.
In those cases the second event was their being received into the Church, not a second baptism,.
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I don't think there is any rule against being baptised more than once, even in the same religious denomination. It was once common for newborn infants to be baptised by a nurse in the maternity hospital if they were not expected to survive. If they did survive they could be baptised later in a church. That happened to my grandmother, who not only survived but lived to be 89.
In those cases the second event was their being received into the Church, not a second baptism,.
Maybe in theory, but I think in practice the first baptism was just forgotten or swept under the carpet. What the Church says and what actually happens are not necessarily the same.
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One of my grandmother's brothers was baptised twice. Once at birth and again in the church a few weeks later. I believe in his case it was because they didn't expect the baby to live.