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Title: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: ekalexm on Wednesday 01 November 17 15:54 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I am a newbie here though I've been looking into my ancestry for some time now.

I am seeking information on the people below, some of whom I believe may be buried in Cambusnethan graveyard in Wishaw.  Grateful for any known information on any of these people and especially keen to know if any headstones exist from some of the older burials.

James McCreaddie McGhie  D 6 Jun 1959 (Law)
Jane Halben Johnston McGhie  D 12 Feb 1970 (Carluke)

Andrew McGhie (James’s father)  D 2 FEB 1909 (Wishaw)
Jane McFarlane (James’s mother)  D 3 JAN 1930 (Law)
George McCreaddie (James’s adopted father)  D: 3 SEP 1934 (Law)

James McGhie (Andrew's father) D: 8 JULY 1890 (Cambusnethan). 
Jane Close  (Andrew’s mother)  D. 5 JUN 1903 (Cambusnethan) 
William McFarlane D 16 DEC 1919 Wishaw (Jane M's foster father).  I believe from another thread that he is buried in Cambusnethan but that no headstone has survived for the plot. 
Agnes McFarlane (Jane M's mother) D 4 APR 1874 (Wishaw).  I believe she may also be buried in the old churchyard, Cambusnethan. Especially keen to trace this plot.

William McFarlane (Agnes’s father).  D 9 JUL 1892 (Wishaw).  I believe he was also buried in Cambusnethan and that no headstone survived for this plot. 
Jane (Jean) Kay (Agnes’s mother)  D 9 JUL 1888 (Wishaw)

Grateful for any help or information on any of these people.

Warmest Regards,
Alex McGhie
Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: sage on Saturday 10 February 18 10:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Alex and welcome to Rootschat,
It's been a while since you made your posting so perhaps I can help a little. Firstly, I am not related to the McGhie family but I have done a certain amount of research on the families of James McGhie and Jane Close through connections they have with other families I research in the Cambusnethan area.
I have Andrew McGhie (son of James McGhie & Jane Close) married to Janet LOVE.  She was buried 02 Aug 1907 aged 46 with at Cambusnethan cemetery Sect E Lair 1286 but I don't know if there would be a headstone.  It is the same grave that Andrew was buried in 1909.  By 1903 there are at least 4 children born to this couple but there was only one child, Jeanie aged 11 on the 1901 census.  I take it that the James McCreaddie McGhie you refer to was born to this couple though you mention his mother being a Jane McFarlane so perhaps you could explain a little how that all works and when James was born.

I have located an Agnes FALCONER, a wife, resident Wishaw, aged 34 yrs, married, father Wm McFarlane, mother Jane Kay, buried Old Graveyard, Cambusnethan 4 Apr 1874.  It looks like she was married to a Wm Falconer.

I hope this gives you something to work with. 
Regards, Sage.
Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: ekalexm on Tuesday 13 February 18 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Sage, many thanks for your response and for the kind welcome.  Thanks also for the burial information, that's very helpful indeed.  I'm fairly closeby and will pay a visit to the cemetery at some point, though as you mention it's unlikely that the headstones remain.

My great grandfather James McCreaddie McGhie, was born on 11 Jan 1881 at 134 Stewarton Street, Wishaw.  He was the illegitimate son of Andrew McGhie and Jean McFarlane, according to his BC and DC of 1959.  Jean married George McCreaddie on 3 Sept 1883 and he became James's adoptive father. My understanding from family is that James was a real gentleman and a Trade Union spokesman for miners.

Andrew McGhie married Janet Love on 23 June 1882 and had James's half sister Jeanie (most likely along with the other children you mention). They lived at Brown's Lane, off Stewarton Street in Wishaw in 1901. 

Thanks also for the burial information for Agnes Falconer (McFarlane) who was Jane's mother.  Agnes's story is a tragic one as she lost three children in infancy, bore a stillborn child and died at a very young age (34) of smallpox contracted during childbirth.  It appears she had a chaotic and difficult life.

Best Regards,
Alex
Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: sage on Wednesday 14 February 18 04:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Alex,

I have an email buddy in Scotland and between the two of us we researched the McGhie family as best we could but I don't think we discovered James McCreaddie McGhie so thank you for this update. 

I wondered if you had any details regarding Jeanie McGhie (Andrew's sister who was 11 on the 1901 census).  We didn't find any details for her after this time. 

I'm guessing that you were able to find the information that Lodger posted regarding the McFarlane's on this site... http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=640993.0
If this link doesn't work just google "McFarlane - where are they buried?"

Agnes Falconer (nee McFarlane) had a brother, Robert who also died relatively young.  He was buried 20 Feb 1900 aged 42 yrs, married, a bricklayer, resident in Coatbridge and son of Wm McFarlane and Jane Kay.  There are two infants buried with him Sect D Lair 357.  His wife was Susan Alexander.

I imagine if you were keen to check out the Cambusnethan cemetery anytime soon you'd have to dust off your wellies first  ;D

I'm not sure how much research you have on the McGhie family but if I can help at all please let me know.

Regards, Sage.
Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: ekalexm on Wednesday 14 February 18 10:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Sage,

Unfortunately I have no further information on Jeanie at the moment.  When time allows I will try to crack on with some further investigation.  I did read Lodger's earlier postings on the McFarlanes, very interesting indeed.  As well as Robert, Agnes had siblings Ann, George, William, John and James.

I think I'll leave it until spring to venture into Cambusnethan cemetery.  Still a bit chilly for prolonged lingering, snow is falling here in Hamilton as I write  :) 

I've undertaken a fair amount of research on the names listed on my initial post.  I visited Kircubbin, NI last year to see the burial place of Andrew Close, my 4th GGF, the McGhies trace back to there. As well as research on the McGhie side, I've traced back the others sides of my family, the Robertsons (Wishaw), Fordyces (Carluke) and Byrnes (Donegal). 

Best,
Alex

1856, buried at graveyard of Trinity Church of Ireland, Kircubbin.  Farm labourer.



Alex


Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: lud on Thursday 15 February 18 15:11 GMT (UK)
Hi, Alex
Andrew Mcghie widower 47 Parents James McGhie and Jeanie Close, lair E 1286 Cambusnethan 5 Feb 1909, there are a total of six internments within that lair.
Pop over to Local Studies, Motherwell Heritage Centre and check out the CD disc for Cambusnethan Burials.
Lud
Title: Re: McGhie & McFarlane, Cambusnethan
Post by: ekalexm on Thursday 15 February 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that information Lud, and I will make a point of going to the Heritage Centre to investigate.

Best,
Alex