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Title: choosing a safe Password
Post by: a j bayram on Tuesday 07 November 17 20:16 GMT (UK)
I am having to consider changing various passwords due to a couple of hacks.

What suggestions can you offer for a more secure type of password to use?

Regards, Andrew.
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 07 November 17 20:38 GMT (UK)


Take a sentence and turn it into a password. Something like "This little piggy went to market" might become "tlpWENT2m"

Sandra
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 07 November 17 21:28 GMT (UK)
Why not use a password generator? https://passwordsgenerator.net/
https://identitysafe.norton.com/password-generator/

Stan
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: GrahamSimons on Tuesday 07 November 17 21:49 GMT (UK)
The registration number of your first car may be a memorable password, and at least unguessable by an outsider.

So may your family's phone number when you were a child if it includes the exchange name, e.g. WHItehall1212.
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 07 November 17 22:23 GMT (UK)
A strong password should contain:

Ideally it should NOT be a regular word!
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 07 November 17 22:35 GMT (UK)
replace vowels in a memorable word with the 'equivalent' numbers ie: e becomes 3, a becomes 4, s becomes 5, o becomes zero
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: bluesofa on Tuesday 07 November 17 22:49 GMT (UK)
Some (for example https://www.cyberaware.gov.uk/passwords (https://www.cyberaware.gov.uk/passwords)) advise using three random words. You just put them together, like 'coffeetrainfish' or ‘walltinshirt’

A longer password is harder for a computer to guess, but don't use words easy to associate with yourself (such as names of children).

Adding capitals and other special characters can further strengthen the password, though Cyber criminals know many of the simple substitutions.

It's also good to have different passwords for different accounts, so if a criminal manages to hack one site, they can't successfully use your username/email and password at another.
Title: Re: PASSWORD PROBLEMS.
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 07 November 17 23:37 GMT (UK)
I use Roboform to generate a new password for each account I open.  I only have to remember one password - my master password - which then opens Roboform so I can see all the others.  It works well for me.
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: eadaoin on Wednesday 08 November 17 10:13 GMT (UK)
I've used poems!
start with "Jack-and-Jill" - when you need to change, move on to Went-up-the-Hill" etc

I've also used other memorable series of things in my childhood, such as names of aunts together with their phone number, or address
"Maura-30GroveRd"
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: Rattus on Wednesday 08 November 17 10:52 GMT (UK)
"Through 20 years of effort, we've successfully trained everyone to use passwords that are hard for humans to remember, but easy for computers to guess."

https://xkcd.com/936/ (https://xkcd.com/936/)
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 08 November 17 11:19 GMT (UK)
I read a similar article a few weeks ago, I guess it makes sense if the passwords many of us use are computer generated, then it must be easy for another computer to guess them.  My saving grace is that I have a different password for every website I use, so guessing one wouldn't do too much damage.
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 08 November 17 14:56 GMT (UK)
Advice....
https://kongtechnology.com/2008/07/28/passwords-are-like-underwear/
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: Caw1 on Wednesday 08 November 17 15:03 GMT (UK)
I find lines from Shakespeare good but turning them into letters both lower and upper case, numbers and characters.
This was a suggestion I got many years ago and have found it quite useful!

Caroline
Title: Re: choosing a safe Password
Post by: a j bayram on Wednesday 08 November 17 19:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the many and varied replies.

It's pleasing to note how helpful members of this site really are.

Time to pick an option.

Regards, Andrew.