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Title: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: stesim58 on Wednesday 08 November 17 15:56 GMT (UK)
Hello--
    Does anyone have access to Pontyberem Directories of 1920s through early 1930s.
Looking for David S. Davies (b. 1869). He was a baker in the 1911 Census at "Glasfry (?) House"
at Pontyberem. He was a coal mine worker earlier. Thanks.
Regards, Stephen E. Simon, CT, USA.
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 13:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

Can't remember where I got it from, but I have a death date for him of 18 Sep 1930. Which would correspond to this entry in the registers: Davies David S (age 61)    Llanelly    11a   888. His death certificate should give his abode in 1930, plus the name of the informant, who may be related.

Regards
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 13:53 GMT (UK)
There is also a probate showing him still at Glasfryn with his wife Anne, inheriting

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1904/31874_221708-00040?pid=3499103&backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/72019084/person/220076209086/gallery&usePUB=true&_phsrc=grl95&usePUBJs=true
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 14:02 GMT (UK)
Can't obviously find his marriage to wife Anne. Some have said she is Anne Walters and there is a marrige of David Stephen Davies to possibly Anne Walters in 1885, but this is to early

Bowen    Sarah Jane        Llanelly    11a   1039    
Davies    David Stephen        Llanelly    11a   1039    
Rees    John        Llanelly    11a   1039    
Walters    Ann        Llanelly    11a   1039   

as in 1891 he is shown as S although M has been crossed out, Presumably, based on their children it would have been early 1890s but can't find a David S or David Stephen marriage then in Carmarthenshire

Do others have any suggestions?
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: stesim58 on Thursday 09 November 17 14:49 GMT (UK)
Hello--
    Wow!! Thank you again. Did the probate give his date. I do not have Ancestry
at this time--renewing soon. I will order the death. Did you find Evan Joshua Davies'
death too?? David's younger brother. Thanks.
Regards, Stephen
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 15:46 GMT (UK)
Probate confirms death date. Evan died Dec 4 1949, again there is probate. I have Evan married twice first to Mary Ann Thomas and then to Margaret (Maggie) Thomas, who inherits his "estate". I also have that Evan was known as Ianto. I think all this info originally came from other member trees on Ancestry. I'll PM you later today or tomorrow
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: stesim58 on Thursday 09 November 17 15:52 GMT (UK)
Hi--
   Thank you. I did not have that. Yes, --GRO index shows 1949--death of Evan Joshua Davies in 1949.
Thank you again.
Regards, Stephen
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 18:31 GMT (UK)
Using the GRO to look at the births of David and Ann's children her surname looks to be Hughes, with births I have looked registered in Llanelly, except for Rosanna whose birth is registered in Carmarthen.


Example registration

DAVIES, ANNIE  MARY     (HUGHES)   
GRO Reference: 1908  D Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 1245

I have looked for the marriage of David Davies and Ann Hughes in Carmarthenshire 1901-1904 but can't find one. The nearest I can find is potentially a Mary Ann in 1898 but that's too early

Surname    First name(s)        District    Vol    Page
Marriages Dec 1898   (>99%)
DAVIES    David        Carmarthen    11a   1710    
Hughes    Mary Ann        Carmarthen    11a   1710    
Jones    Elizabeth        Carmarthen    11a   1710    
Lewis    Thomas Henry        Carmarthen

Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 09 November 17 19:22 GMT (UK)
This one would fit with being married 18 yrs in 1911 also with first child born

Marriages Mar Q 1893   
Davies    David        Carmarthen    11a   1155    
Hughes    Anne        Carmarthen    11a   1155    

DAVIES, ROSANNA       mmn HUGHES     
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in CARMARTHEN  Volume 11A  Page 1085   
 
Cas
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 19:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you

That would be a perfect fit, don't know why I didn't spot in my search, a fresh pair of eyes always help with ancestry research!
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Thursday 09 November 17 19:53 GMT (UK)
Evan Joshua Davies marriages

Mary Ann Thomas:

Marriages Mar 1897   
DAVIES    Evan Joshua    Llanelly    11a   1172

Maggie (Margaret) Thomas:

Marriages Mar 1913 
Davies    Evan J        Llanelly    11a   1898
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: stesim58 on Friday 10 November 17 00:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you for everything.
Stephen
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: roycymru on Sunday 12 November 17 22:56 GMT (UK)
For those following this thread.

 I have been very fortunate to be in contact with the son of a lady (100 years and with an amazing memory) that knew Mary Ann Davies in the 1920s. She actually married a William Bevan (born 1875 Llangyfelach, Glamorgan) in 1897 in Llanelly. In 1901 they lived in Lanwonno, Glamorgan (William entered incorrectly as Wm Berman). They had one daughter Rosalie born Penrhiwceiber, Llanwonno in 1900. In 1911 they were back in Pontyberem, living at the Boat House (Mary Ann's father and siblings lived at the Boat Shop in 1881, probably the same place). In the 1920s they were living at Railway Terrace, Pontyberem. The lady remembers Mary Ann as being very deaf and having a large ear trumpet, which is confirmed by the 1911 census which states Mary Ann had already been deaf for 5 years.
Title: Re: David S. Davies, Pontyberem, 1920s/early 1930s
Post by: stesim58 on Sunday 12 November 17 23:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you for posting this information.
Regards, Stephen