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Title: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Wednesday 08 November 17 16:30 GMT (UK)
Another elusive person in my tree!    I have Clarissa Anderton born Dec Q 1890 in Keighley, Yorks to Jonas B and Sarah E in the 1891 census.

No trace of her after this in the UK.    I have her in the USA in the 1910 census in Lawrence City, Massachusetts with her Aunts Emily and Clarissa Murgatroyd  (Sarah Es half sisters)

Can find no trace between 1891 and 1910.   Anyone help with her date of trip to the US please.
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:03 GMT (UK)
For anyone trying to help in 1901 her father Jonas Beck Anderton is a widower RG13/4074 f125 p16. She is not with him
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:04 GMT (UK)
Massachusetts Passenger List -  Clarisa Anderton born 1890 - 9 months old - Liverpool to Boston Massachusetts on the Catalonia - arriving 2 August 1891 - travelling with Clarisa Anderton aged 28 years - occupation Matron - second class cabin.
Cannot see a reference to the mother in Lawrence MA.

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:15 GMT (UK)
1900 census Lawrence MA (mistranscribed) Daughter under Clarisa Daisy

Mary J Murgadrois   Head      55   England
Emily Murgadrois   Daughter   29   England
Annie Murgadrois   Daughter   26   England
Selena Murgadrois   Daughter   24   England
Clarissa Murgadrois   Daughter   16   England
Clauia Daisy   Boarder   F   10   England

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9R7-G61

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6G19-M5J?i=20&cc=1325221

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:33 GMT (UK)
Rosie -thanks for that info - should have posted it.

Sandra - thanks for your input.    This family is really bugging me and the answers above have thrown another spanner in the works.

Who is the Clarissa Anderton b 1867 who takes Clarissa to Boston???    Sarah Es mother is Mary Jane Murgatroyd.    The Murgatroyds  go to Boston on 2 December 1889 On the Catalonia.    There is a Sarah on the list but who is she???    Sarah E is a half sister to the Ms (mothers 1st marriage to Pearson Davey) who married Jonas Beck on the 26 December 1889!!!!!    She is also on Emily Ms grave stone in Lawrence Mass as having died in 1891.

What a muddle

should have said that 1891 Census has:
Jonas B Anderton
Sarah E Anderton
Clarissa Anderton
Edwin Anderton Brother
James Davies Bro in Law -  bro to Sarah E
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: jorose on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:53 GMT (UK)
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx
shows a death for Sarah E Anderton (Davey) in 1892.
also here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWP4-NJ8

Perhaps "Clarissa" senior on the shipping list is Sarah E, just a mixup?
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 08 November 17 17:58 GMT (UK)

Clarice Anderton born 1890

ANDERTON, CLARICE    - mothers maiden surname - DAVY 
GRO Reference: 1890  D Quarter in Keighley - Volume 09A  Page 183

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: MaureeninNY on Wednesday 08 November 17 20:21 GMT (UK)
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx
shows a death for Sarah E Anderton (Davey) in 1892.
also here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWP4-NJ8

Perhaps "Clarissa" senior on the shipping list is Sarah E, just a mixup?

On the outbound manifest for the Catalonia they are transcribed as Mrs. S. E. Anderson (age 28) and Claretta (infant).

Maureen
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Thursday 09 November 17 10:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your replies and information.

There is another person in the mix:    Sarah Elizabeth Anderton b1863, sister of Jonas B!!!

I have sent for the BC of Clarice although Sandra has noted her mothers name as "Davy" (I cannot seem to find this info at all)

Harry
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 09 November 17 11:02 GMT (UK)

I have sent for the BC of Clarice although Sandra has noted her mothers name as "Davy" (I cannot seem to find this info at all)

The GRO index gives her mothers maiden name as Davy
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Thursday 09 November 17 11:18 GMT (UK)
Rosie

how dumb am I - I was not aware that this info was available on the GRO site

many thanks

Harry
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 09 November 17 11:27 GMT (UK)
It has not been there for long.  They did a trial for PDF copies for births & deaths a few months ago and I think the information was 'loaded' at that point.  It also gives ages at death from 1837.
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Thursday 09 November 17 11:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Rosie.    I have ordered the PDF copy so at least will get the full date.

H
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 09 November 17 13:46 GMT (UK)
I ordered some the other day, they arrived a day earlier than expected.  Make sure you save it to your computer. 

I also had excellent service from the probate office - ordered a recent will on Tuesday morning, its already available for me to see.  ;D
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Tuesday 14 November 17 10:47 GMT (UK)
Things are clearer now.    Extra detail found for Mary J and her Murgatroyd family:   
Emily died 1945 in Lawrence, Mass never married.
Annie married Walter Armitage Oct 6 1900 in Lawrence, Mass no trace of deaths for either,  I have them both in the 1910, 20, 30 and 40 census in Methuen, Mass.
Selina died from multiple burns Aug 3 1902 in Lawrence Hospital never married
Clarissa married Norwell Colquhoun Aug 3 1910 in Lawrence Mass was in State Hosp Danvers in 1920 and died in Lawrence Mass in 1927

Sarah Ellen Kemp/Davy married Jonas B Anderton 1889 UK.    To Boston Mass 23 July 1891 with dau Clarissa but not with husband.    died 25 Jan 1892 Lawrence Mass
Clarissa born 1890 married Walter A Meinelt August 20 1913 no trace of her death

would be grateful for any help with the deaths not found

Harry
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:13 GMT (UK)
Massachusetts, Mason Membership Cards, 1733-1990 for Walter Alfred Meinelt - 23 - 2 1988 -  initiated 10 April 1925 - Deceased 17 July 1955

Last sighting of Clarissa/Clarice D Meinelt was in the Lawrence, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1943 (which could apply to the year earlier)  Note she was not mentioned on the WW2 draft of Walter  ???

There is a marriage for a Walter Alfred Meinelt born 1888 - aged 59 years - married  Alma Louise Cogswell Salem, Rockingham, New Hampshire - 7 May 1947

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:17 GMT (UK)
Massachusetts, Mason Membership Cards, 1733-1990 Walter Armitage born 22 March 1874 England - John Hancock Lodge - letter Carrier - initiated 5-3-1920 - deceased 5-12-1954 Havershill Massachusetts.

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:22 GMT (UK)
Is this a possible for Annie Armitage -  ???  FIND A GRAVE

Annie Armitage - Aged 71 years - 5 - 0

Burial Bellevue Cemetery  Lawrence Essex County Massachusetts.
Plot: Lot: 4468, Sec: 13, Grave: 2

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=175194071

and Walter - Plot: Lot: 4468, Sec: 13, Grave: 15

https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=armitage&GSiman=1&GScid=90780&GRid=175194087&

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:23 GMT (UK)
Sandra you are a star.    That is def the Walter Armitage I have.    Is his death shown as the US way or UK??? (sorry)

many thanks

Harry
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:26 GMT (UK)
Sandra

that could be the Annie Armitage.    age 71 would be her death about 1945?????    Pity it does not show when she was interred

thanks again

Harry
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:28 GMT (UK)
The daughter of Annie and Walter - Dorothy E nee Armitage Norman born 21 February 1913 Metheun MA  passed away 29 May 1999 -
parents - Walter Armitage Mother Annie Murgatroye (as transcribed)

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:30 GMT (UK)
Sandra you are a star.    That is def the Walter Armitage I have.    Is his death shown as the US way or UK??? (sorry)

many thanks

Harry

No I adjusted that to the way it would be written in the UK

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:33 GMT (UK)
Sadly the cemetery seem to charge for genealogy information - otherwise it would have been worth an e-mail -  :-\

http://www.cityoflawrence.com/bellevue-cemetery.aspx

Sandra
Title: Re: Clarice/Clarissa Anderton
Post by: BW252 on Tuesday 14 November 17 11:41 GMT (UK)
Well almost finished on this topic, one outstanding query and that is Clarissa!!!!

Many thanks to all who have helped it is really much appreciated.

Harry