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Title: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Jomot on Saturday 11 November 17 02:24 GMT (UK)
Can anyone make sense of the address of the informant on this 1849 death certificate please? 

The deceased is Gwenllian Davies, 68, of Village, Aberdare, widow of Thomas Davies, Collier.  I think Thomas may have died in March 1841.

I'm trying to trace the family of James Davis/Davies who died aged 35 in February the same year and think this may be his mother, which potentially could make Morgan Davies a brother or uncle to James - if only I could locate him!

Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Deirdre784 on Saturday 11 November 17 06:00 GMT (UK)
Twynyrodyn
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 11 November 17 06:25 GMT (UK)
Agree

http://www.alangeorge.co.uk/twynyrodyn.htm

Cas
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Jomot on Saturday 11 November 17 11:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you!   

I still can't find him, but I'll try following a few possibilities and hopefully find a child born there. 

Unfortunately because James died before the 1851 census I've no idea where he - and therefore possibly Morgan - were born, other than 'Glamorgan', so I think this is going to be a long & expensive search!
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Yonks Ago on Saturday 11 November 17 12:17 GMT (UK)
Jomot,

I think I have something on him, not any connection to me..but I have done a search for a friend here in Australia..looks to be same family


Yonks
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Yonks Ago on Saturday 11 November 17 12:29 GMT (UK)
Jomot,
could it be Treorky Glamorgan..in parish of Ystradyfodwg
Yonks
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Yonks Ago on Saturday 11 November 17 12:33 GMT (UK)
Sorry.
No don't think I have it right..sorry
the Gwen I have that marr a Thomas DAVIES..child born in 1897

Yonks
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 11 November 17 13:43 GMT (UK)
Is this the family in 1841? There is a Morg: Davies next door down age 30 a tailor.

1841 - Aberdare Village, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Gwenllyan   Davies   Female   55   Glamorgan
James   Davies   Male   25   Glamorgan
Anne   Davies   Female   10   Glamorgan
William   Hern   Male   30   Ireland   

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7WQ-6V5

Cas
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Jomot on Saturday 11 November 17 14:13 GMT (UK)
Is this the family in 1841? There is a Morg: Davies next door down age 30 a tailor.

1841 - Aberdare Village, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Gwenllyan   Davies   Female   55   Glamorgan
James   Davies   Male   25   Glamorgan
Anne   Davies   Female   10   Glamorgan
William   Hern   Male   30   Ireland   

I think I need to give myself a good slap!  Yes, that's the family I was looking at but I was so distracted by the family on the other side, who I think may be related by marriage, that I didn't notice Morgan the Tailor  :-[

I'm more confused than ever now though as I'd found an 1851 Merthyr census for Morgan Davies aged 36 & born Aberdare, but he was a collier.  Living with him was a brother, Elias aged 31, and I see the Morgan you mention has a son named Elias.  HO107/2459/91/20

I'd also found an 1852 marriage for Ann Davies aged 21 with a father named as Morgan, but he was also collier.  Her address looked to me like Twynyrodyn - what do you think?
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 11 November 17 14:15 GMT (UK)
Maybe no connection, just a neighbor in 1841 as still in Aberdare 1851 with all children up to 1851 b Aberdare.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG8N-Q27

Cas
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 11 November 17 14:19 GMT (UK)
Looks very much like Twynyrodyn

Cas
Title: Re: Morgan Davies 'somewhere' in Merthyr Tydfil 1849
Post by: Jomot on Saturday 11 November 17 14:24 GMT (UK)
Lots to investigate! 

Hopefully I can confirm or eliminate the 1851 family in Merthyr via a marriage certificate or two, and the Christmas list will include several items from the Glamorgan FHS  ;D