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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: kiwiozbrit on Sunday 12 November 17 01:34 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I am wondering if anyone else has come across my ancestor Harris Hunter and his wife Elizabeth Hunter (nee Lamont). I only have their names from the record of their daughter Elizabeth Hunter Campbell's death in Barnhill Poorhouse on 29.06.1897. Harris doesn't even have an occupation listed, I doubt there's any "gentlemen" in our family though! ;)
Elizabeth H Campbell may have had a brother John Hunter, as the 1851 census shows John & Sarah Hunter (both b about 1824 in Ireland) and their son John living with her and husband Nathaniel Campbell and family. May also be a cousin, as the death record I found for John Hunter shows parents as John Hunter and Martha Allan.
I wish I even knew which area of Ireland to look at! ???
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Statutory death registration started in Ireland in 1864. There’s only 1 Harris Hunter death in the period 1864 to 1921:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05925/4682338.pdf
He died in Antrim town workhouse on 22.7.1895 aged 77. He was a widower and had been a miller. If the Antrim workhouse admission records have survived, they will be in PRONI in Belfast and might tell you a little more about him.
There are a number of Elizabeth/Eliza Hunter deaths in Antrim in the period 1864 to 1895 that could be a wife, but those records are not on-line free. You would need to pay to view them on the GRONI site.
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Statutory death registration started in Ireland in 1864. There’s only 1 Harris Hunter death in the period 1864 to 1921:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05925/4682338.pdf
He died in Antrim town workhouse on 22.7.1895 aged 77. He was a widower and had been a miller. If the Antrim workhouse admission records have survived, they will be in PRONI in Belfast and might tell you a little more about him.
There are a number of Elizabeth/Eliza Hunter deaths in Antrim in the period 1864 to 1895 that could be a wife, but those records are not on-line free. You would need to pay to view them on the GRONI site.
Thanks very much for the quick reply Elwyn (which coincidentally is my eldest sister's name, spelt Alwyn)!
That could be his son, as the Harris Hunter I'm looking for fathered his daughter Elizabeth in abt 1813. It certainly is tricky finding Irish records, have run into walls for rellies on both sides of the family, Campbells and McMeekins. One day I'll get to Rasharkin and have a poke around the churchyard! :)
Niki
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A post from 2009 looking for Harris Hunter born c1815-
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27697814
Still searching for the family in 2015-
http://www.nifhs.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Queries-26.1.pdf
I remember this person getting in touch with me years ago and will see if I can find my notes from that time.
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The only earlier reference to someone called Harris Hunter I could see (ie. earlier than Harris Hunter the Ballymena miller and his wife Rose Hunter) was in the tithe applotment books, he was living in the townland of 'Cruckanolly' in Skerry (1825) - which is otherwise Knockanully:
http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=16430
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-lower/skerry/knockanully/
No sign of him there by the time of Griffith's Valuation though (local print date 1862).
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The only earlier reference to someone called Harris Hunter I could see (ie. earlier than Harris Hunter the Ballymena miller and his wife Rose Hunter) was in the tithe applotment books, he was living in the townland of 'Cruckanolly' in Skerry (1825) - which is otherwise Knockanully:
http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=16430
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-lower/skerry/knockanully/
No sign of him there by the time of Griffith's Valuation though (local print date 1862).
Thanks, :) can I access the tithe applotment books online anywhere?
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http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246940_00746.pdf
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... Thanks, :) can I access the tithe applotment books online anywhere?
At this point I'm not aware of a single comprehensive online database that enables an all Ireland search covering every record that exists (there aren't records for all land in the first place, as well as urban and non-agricultural land being missing, there were many exemptions).
If I'm wrong on that 'single comprehensive online database', I'll be delighted for someone to correct me. The Genealogical Society of Utah (behind the 'FamilySearch' brand) have transcribed a great many of the records for what is today the Republic of Ireland (and some records where parishes overlap with what is today Northern Ireland), the National Archives of Ireland have an online search engine for those here:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
Some coverage of the remaining 6 counties in today's Northern Ireland is here (transcription only):
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/
County Antrim is specifically covered here:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/
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Thanks Hallmark and gaffy and aghadowey.
People here are very helpful,wish I'd discovered Rootschat earlier! :)
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Have checked my notes from 2003 and the details I was sent were mainly about Amelia Marion Kathleen Hunter and her descendants. However, as she was supposed to go out to South Africa in 1880 (and supposed to be born c1865) then it's possible she went there with family members so might be worth looking for Harris Hunter and wife Rose there.