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Title: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: smileygirl on Friday 17 November 17 22:50 GMT (UK)
Pease can you have a go at reading this awful handwriting. I can make out TOM  BABY JUN 45 and that's it!!!l
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: sbny357 on Saturday 18 November 17 08:46 GMT (UK)
What is on the front of the photograph?

I think this lists the names of three people, and my best guess would be that the names are:
Lo___ Ba__ Bercic
Farle Latham
Lowery Tur___

I think the 't' in Latham was added after the first pass, and simply missed the mark.

Steve
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 18 November 17 08:53 GMT (UK)
It rather depends what is on the photo.

If it's a small child, it might say Toms Baby Bernie.

If it's a troop of 40 soldiers, it would probably say something different. ;)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: dublin1850 on Saturday 18 November 17 09:10 GMT (UK)
I think the middle name is Jack Lynam.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 09:40 GMT (UK)
Would love to see the photo - I thought the last line was sowing turnips!!!!    ;D ;D   Because is isn't an upper case 'T'.  Compare with T in Tom.

First - Tom  ? Baby  Bernie

And I wondered about Jack Ingram for second line.

Please may we see the photo?

Wiggy

Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: isobelw on Saturday 18 November 17 09:59 GMT (UK)
Could it be Tom Baley? I also see Jack Lynam. Last line looks like Trump!!
Isobel
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 November 17 10:00 GMT (UK)
The context is so important and also your knowledge of the family/person you think it belongs to.

Looks like
This is Tom baby Bernie.  (As in Tom’s baby)
Jack Lynam
Lowry ....

As others have said.

I wondered too about ‘Trump’ but as other names have a capital letter it might be something different  :)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 10:11 GMT (UK)
The 'L' of Lynam looks quite different from the first letter of the first word in the third line. (got all that? ;))
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: isobelw on Saturday 18 November 17 10:16 GMT (UK)
I agree with Wiggy. First letter in third line looks like the first letter of what we think is Tom in first line. Could third line be Tommy?
Isobel
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 November 17 10:18 GMT (UK)
But then the middle letter of that word does not look like the ‘m’ in Tom the last letter in ‘Lynam’.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 November 17 10:24 GMT (UK)
The two words ‘Lowry turnip’ (just for identification  ;D) look to have the same two letters in them -possibly ‘ur’ joined.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 10:25 GMT (UK)
But then the middle letter of that word does not look like the ‘m’ in Tom the last letter in ‘Lynam’.

 ;D  Exactly - I think it looks like a 'w'!   ;D

Tricky isn't it.  ;)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 November 17 10:27 GMT (UK)
For what it's worth, this is my take:

This is From Baby Bernie

Jack Lynam

Lowrey Krup

June 45


I've identified it as K with trepidation but I've seena few Ks written like that!

Gadget
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 18 November 17 10:29 GMT (UK)
I don't see a T... I see, Son baby Bertie? and sowing turnips? The T in the word this and turnips (if that's what it says) is different to what has been suggested as Tom. I'm not sure that the last word is a surname as it would start with a capital letter. Wild guess...we need to see the photo as context will greatly help.
Carol
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 10:30 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D 

Well that is one I wouldn't have thought of, Gadget!   ;)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 November 17 10:33 GMT (UK)
 ;D

Think we need to see the front of the card and see who Jack Lynam married and if there was a Bernie/Bernard Lynam (who might be still alive as many 1945 babies are  ;)  )
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 10:36 GMT (UK)
And were they sowing turnips?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 18 November 17 10:51 GMT (UK)
And were they sowing turnips?  ;D ;D

Nobody would be more surprised than me if they were Wiggy  :P ;D ;D
Carol
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 18 November 17 12:06 GMT (UK)
Think the word might me troup?

Jennifer
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: isobelw on Saturday 18 November 17 13:05 GMT (UK)
Looking at it again the last line does look like 'sowing turnip'.
Isobel
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 18 November 17 13:16 GMT (UK)
As others have said it would be very helpful to see the photo and understand the context.

This is how it looks to me:

This is from baby book
Jack Lynam
Lowry twins
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: smileygirl on Saturday 18 November 17 13:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you to all who tried to decipher this writing. We now think this is what it says:

This is Tom, Baby, Bernie, Jack Lynam  sowing turnips June 1945

Bernie and Tom are 1st cousins and the other short guy Jack is the neighbour Jack Lynam apparently and yes they lived  on a farm so sowing turnips seemed most likely  here is the photo and thanks for your help. We still don't know who the baby is but we think it must be Toms as he is holding her.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Saturday 18 November 17 16:40 GMT (UK)
I have been out all day and thought all would be solved  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 18 November 17 19:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you to all who tried to decipher this writing. We now think this is what it says:

This is Tom, Baby, Bernie, Jack Lynam  sowing turnips June 1945

Bernie and Tom are 1st cousins and the other short guy Jack is the neighbour Jack Lynam apparently and yes they lived  on a farm so sowing turnips seemed most likely  here is the photo and thanks for your help. We still don't know who the baby is but we think it must be Toms as he is holding her.

Where, where??    Did you mean to post the photo?     ;D
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: smileygirl on Sunday 19 November 17 00:09 GMT (UK)
Wiggy I posted the picture on the original post next to the writing on the back
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 19 November 17 08:50 GMT (UK)
Sorry, smileygirl,  I can't see it.       :-\

  I wonder if others can.

Wiggy.     :)

 
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 19 November 17 09:10 GMT (UK)
Sorry, smileygirl,  I can't see it.       :-\

  I wonder if others can.

Wiggy.     :)

Not seen either when I first looked, in between or now!
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: JenB on Sunday 19 November 17 09:15 GMT (UK)
Sorry, smileygirl,  I can't see it.       :-\

  I wonder if others can.

Wiggy.     :)

Not seen either when I first looked, in between or now!

I've been following the thread right from the start, and there was only ever one image posted, of the back with the writing. In reply #1 you were asked what was on the front?
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: smileygirl on Monday 20 November 17 01:32 GMT (UK)
Hi here goes second time lucky as my photo in the original post is still awaiting approval  grr

Thanks for all your efforts though much appreciated x
I had to rename the file as it said I already uploaded it.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: sarah on Monday 20 November 17 09:49 GMT (UK)
I am sorry I had problems with this image earlier on, all showing ok now ;)
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 20 November 17 09:58 GMT (UK)
Ah ha!  Thanks Smileygirl.    :D.   Thanks Sarah.    :)

Now that makes sense!    Sowing turnips it is!!!    ;)

Wiggy.
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 20 November 17 10:25 GMT (UK)
I wonder what the horse was called  :D
Title: Re: back of photo writing needs deciphering please
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 20 November 17 10:32 GMT (UK)
The horse actually looks rather fed up doesn't it!   ;)   Beautifully kept - lovely shiny coat, but head drooping.