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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: jc26red on Sunday 19 November 17 11:42 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
The following is from Bethams Abstracts.
It's about the Will left by Roger Levesey of co Wexford, Ireland granted 14 Aug 1669
Can anyone tell me what is written after the name Wm Creed ? and what it means ???
All the other abstracts on the page usually say, wife,sister, brother etc., they are either the main beneficiary or administrator. Later abstracts actually list every family member mentioned in the Will.
William Creed is my interest rather than Roger Levesey.
thanks in advance, any ideas welcome
jenny
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I think it's Prin Cred r = principal creditor
Dawn M
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Agree with Dawn - it has a superscript r after Cred:
Credr
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Thanks Dawn and Gadget,
I sort of guessed Prin might mean Principal but would a Creditor be mentioned in a Will though, rather than listing the main beneficiary?
So frustrating with Irish research... you get little hints then nothing
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Could it simply be that Roger Levesey wanted to be sure that William Creed was paid what he was owed and so he named him in the will :-\
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I've often seen creditors named, in old Wills. A creditor is someone to whom the Will writer owed money.
These days the wording is something like 'after all my debts have been paid'
Dawn M
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Thanks Dawn, I've not seen it before but it would make sense.
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would a Creditor be mentioned in a Will though, rather than listing the main beneficiary?
Is there something not showing in the extract that actually states there was a will that went to probate? If not, it looks likely to be just an administration, with no will.
Anyone with an interest could apply to administer the estate. For a creditor who was owed money by the deceased, it would probably be the best chance of getting his money back.
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Sadly that is all there is. Irish wills all went up in smoke in 1922, so we have to rely on indexes and, in this case, a small abstract.
It's not surprising, william Creed was a creditor, the family had money and his father was paymaster general to the army.
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Sadly that is all there is. Irish wills all went up in smoke in 1922, so we have to rely on indexes and, in this case, a small abstract.
Yes, I'm well aware of that.
But the indexes and abstracts normally make a distinction between wills and grants of administration.
A close look at Betham's shows that this particular record comes in Series 2: Administrations, vol. 30. This suggests that there was no valid will, only a grant of administration for distributing the estate.