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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Westy11 on Sunday 19 November 17 13:06 GMT (UK)
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Hoping for some assistance to track down a birth record for Charles SMITH son of James SMITH & Jane McGARRETY said to have occurred 28 Mar 1860 Toowoomba.
I cannot locate Charles on the QLD BDM, FindMyPast FamilySearch or Anc. A few trees have him born in Toowoomba on 28 Mar 1860 however I am unable to verify that information hence hoping for some expert assistance from this forum.
Charles married Mary Dale daughter of William DALE & Mary SHELTON at Dalby 28 Mar 1883 which makes me wonder if its coincidence that Charles was married on the same day and month he was born or is the date a bit of creative thinking or ???
Charles died 21 Apr 1933 and it is said he is buried at Toowong although i am unable to locate his burial. ???
Fingers crossed Charles birth will be located.
Westy
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It would help if you could find out where the date of birth has come from. Sometimes people just make stuff up and everyone copies.
1863
C146
Unnamed SMITH
James and Jane
Debra :)
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There is no marriage for James SMITH and Jane. She married James BEAUTY in 1854 and a son Nathaniel was baptised at Ipswich in 1855.
His death?
1929
C103
Nathaniel SMITH
Parents: James SMITH & Jane MacGARETY
Debra :)
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Charles died 21 Apr 1933 and it is said he is buried at Toowong although i am unable to locate his burial. ???
QLD death index
1933 B20330 Charles Smith FATHER James Smith MOTHER Jane McGaratty
Toowong cemetery
Surname SMITH
Given Names CHARLES
Other Names
Date of Birth Unrecorded
Date of Death Unrecorded
Age 70 Years
Date of Service 22-04-1933
Service Type Burial
Location 29-8-17
Age of death ties in with the birth that Debra found.
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There is no marriage for James SMITH and Jane. She married James BEAUTY in 1854 and a son Nathaniel was baptised at Ipswich in 1855.
His death?
1929
C103
Nathaniel SMITH
Parents: James SMITH & Jane MacGARETY
Debra :)
Following on from Debra's info
QLD marriage
1854 BM700 James Beauty AND Jane McGarity
QLD birth index
1854 BBP1125 Nathaniel Beauty FATHER James MOTHER Jane -
[BBP Church record of a baptism]
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Re Nathaniel BEAUTY ...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTHK-HMK Born 27 Jan 1855, baptised 25 March 1855.
NSW BDM online has two entries in their Early Church Records for the above
1855, vol 42A ... Nathaniel, son of James and Jane BEAUTY.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
Queensland was not hived off from NSW until 1859.
NSW BDM online has James BEAUTY marrying Jane MCGARITY in 1854. Vol 81, line 891. The ECR code of QG represents Ipswich, Presbyterian. :)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/early-church-codes.aspx
JM
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Debra, Giblet and JM,
Thanks so much for that work: superb and much appreciated.
Westy
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It would help if you could find out where the date of birth has come from. Sometimes people just make stuff up and everyone copies.
1863
C146
Unnamed SMITH
James and Jane
Debra :)
Hello Debra,
Unable to verify [as yet] the origins of the birth but the whole things seems copied by others.
Westy
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Hi. I've just come across your request. If you find anything let me know. Charles Smith is my Great Grandfather and we are also having the same issues. I have a copy of the marriage certificate for Charles Smith and Mary Dale dated 28 Mar 1883, Dalby. His parents are listed as James Smith and Jane McGanetty (spelling issues come from deciphering old writing I guess). His age is stated as 22. That would make his birth year circa 1861 even though we also had 1860. I also have other information gathered from his mother Jane's death certificate.
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Hello Bindi,
Great to meet you. We are related.
As yet I cannot contact you via the personal message but if you post again we may be able to correspond outside the public forum.
Westy
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Hello Bindi,
Great to meet you. We are related.
As yet I cannot contact you via the personal message but if you post again we may be able to correspond outside the public forum.
Westy
I have just sent a reply via email. :)
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Look forward to it Bindi.
Seem to be having issues with my email at the moment so will keep a look out.
PM on its way.
Westy