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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: cupcake on Wednesday 22 November 17 16:36 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone please help with any military information on Thomas BURNS.
All I know he was a Private with the Royal Scots Fusiliers and died at the Battle of Loos in 1916 aged 32. Born 1883 and married 1903 in Newcastle.
Sorry I don't have his number.
cupcake
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This one died in 1915:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/728934/burns,-thomas/
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Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites. The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.
More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.
MaxD
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Burns 17675 was born in Troqueer, Kircudbrightshire, according to the Scottish National War Memorial.
Imber
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And lived in Maxwelltown Dumfrieshire. Was in the 6th Battalion, went to France in August 1915. The war diary has a very detailed account by the Commanding Officer of the action by 6th R Scots Fus on 24-26 Sep 1917 in which this Thomas Burns was among the missing and whose death was presumed to have occurred on 25 Sep 1915. He is among the 414 men of the Royal Scots Fusiliers who have no known grave and who are commemorated on the Loos Memorial cited by nanny jan earlier.
MaxD
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Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites. The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.
More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.
MaxD
I am not sure on this, sorry.
cupcake
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Where did you find the information about his regiment and date of death?
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To give geographical location for where he was when he fell go to this map:
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101465011
go to G.5.b. (fosse no.8 ) & that is the trench the 6/RSF where in on the day.
Below is a local map on which I've indicated the same.
These trenches in red were German.
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Burns 17675 was born in Troqueer, Kircudbrightshire, according to the Scottish National War Memorial.
Imber
The information I have been given says he was married in Newcastle 1903 - don't have information where he was born. That said - this may be him.
cupcake
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Where did you find the information about his regiment and date of death?
From his Grandson, who I am doing the research for. I would think 1915 would be the year.
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To give geographical location for where he was when he fell go to this map:
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101465011
go to G.5.b. (fosse no.8 ) & that is the trench the 6/RSF where in on the day.
Below is a local map on which I've indicated the same.
These trenches in red were German.
Many thanks for the map.
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This one died in 1915:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/728934/burns,-thomas/
Had a look at the book but it doesn't give Thomas BURNS father's name (John) which could have helped.
Thank you for your help.
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Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites. The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.
More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.
MaxD
Does make me wonder if the above is the Thomas BURNS when there is no other Burns of that regiment.
Many thanks for your time.
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Perhaps the cousin should review the family information. I find no Thomas Burns marriage in 1903 in the Newcastle district.
Recap - the only Royal Scots Fusilier of that name who appears on the CWGC site is the one who died at Loos in 1915
Wife Martha
Came from Troqueer Kirkcudbrightshire
Lived Maxwell Town Dumfrieshire
May be worth checking the regiment also, there are other regiments with very similar names.
MaxD
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Perhaps the cousin should review the family information. I find no Thomas Burns marriage in 1903 in the Newcastle district.
Recap - the only Royal Scots Fusilier of that name who appears on the CWGC site is the one who died at Loos in 1915
Wife Martha
Came from Troqueer Kirkcudbrightshire
Lived Maxwell Town Dumfrieshire
May be worth checking the regiment also, there are other regiments with very similar names.
MaxD
I will check with him again regarding the family information and hopefully get back to you.
Many thanks
cupcake
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Can see just 1 marriage between a Thomas Burns & Martha ?.
1903 Dumfries to Martha W Connell.
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Can see just 1 marriage between a Thomas Burns & Martha ?.
1903 Dumfries to Martha W Connell.
Yes, I have just found the marriage on Scotlands People - this would appear to be him but, will check with the grandson.
Thank you.
cupcake
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Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites. The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.
More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.
MaxD
I can confirm that the Thomas BURNS with wife Martha and regiment, are correct. They were married in Dumfries 17 April 1903.
Thank you once again.
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This one died in 1915:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/728934/burns,-thomas/
You are correct with this information.
Many thanks.
cupcake
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Burns 17675 was born in Troqueer, Kircudbrightshire, according to the Scottish National War Memorial.
Imber
Many thanks for that.
cupcake
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Hi there Thomas Burns is my Great Granddad and he was born at Troqueer Maxwelton (opposite the river Noth from Dumfries. He worked as a carder at Rosefield Mills in Troqueer until joining the RSF in 1914 he died at Loos on Saturday 25th 1915.
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He is commemorated on the Maxwelton War Memorial at the corner of New abbey Road and Rotchell Road Dumfries Scotland
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Heres some info about my great Grandad... We have him married in 1903 at Dumfries, however there are connections via his Grandparents, Darby Pagden and Nellie Gunyon Pagden (What great names!) to Newcastle