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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Rutland => Topic started by: ansteynomad on Friday 24 November 17 14:21 GMT (UK)
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I believe that my great great grandmother was Charlotte Towell, born c 1827 in Oakham, according to the censuses. She died in Leicester in 1917 at the age of 90.
I think I have now found her in the 1841 Census in High Street, Uppingham with parents George and Margaret and many siblings. George would appear to have been born in county c 1781.
Margaret and the oldest sibling, Mary were not born in county and indeed Mary was born in Scotland.
I have found a marriage at Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew as follows:
Allegation, with bond, by George Towell, lieutenant-adjutant in the 3rd Dragoon Guard, of Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, army officer, widower for marriage to Margaret Ann Martin, of Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, spinster with consent of John Martin, regimental quartermaster in the 3rd Dragoon Guard (father), army officer at Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland sworn before Robert Green (surrogate). Surety in bond: John Martin, regimental quartermaster in the 3rd Dragoon Guard, of Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, army officer.
The marriage took place on 28 May 1821 at Newcastle St Andrew and I’m wondering if this is the same couple.
The only George Towell baptism I can find at about the right time is in Wing, Rutland on 3 February 1777 with parents Thomas and Ann.
I have no idea if I’m on the right track here, but my Charlotte Towell married Abraham Phillips from Crowland, Lincs at Oakham in 1848 and they settled in Leicester.
Would anybody like to look at this with me?
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George Towell who died Sep 1849 Uppingham was 73 which ties in with the age of the baptism you found.
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I think that's the right marriage.
1841 has a 1 year old daughter called Mira.
Closest I can see is Sep 1839 Mirce Felicier Towell **
Uppingham mothers name Martin
**maria felicia makes more sense!
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Hi
Really sorry about this but there is a brief transcript of her marriage.
Charlotte Towell married Abraham Phillips of Kimbley 27 July 1848 of Oakham.
Both bach and spins and of this parish.
Her father is Henry Towel.
It's from Familysearch and does not give the grooms father's name occupations or witnesses.
Ciderdrinker
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There is a baptism in Uppingham in 1825 of Albina Towell d/o George & Ann Margaret. George's occupation was given as Lieutenant in the Army.
Oops, sorry, just noticed ciderdrinker's post gives Charlotte's father as Henry.
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I guess the 1841 could still be the right Charlotte, as no relationships are given George may be some other relation :-\
Clutching at straws but maybe her father Henry had died and she was with relatives.
There don't seem to be any other likely 1841's for her.
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I'd be reluctant to rely only on a partial transcript for her father's details though. I think the certificate is needed unfortunately.
Having said that, there is a marriage 4 November 1844 in Edgbaston of Charlotte Towell of Uppingham to Edward Corser of Edgbaston. No parents details given but the Wolverhampton Chronicle reports that the marriage first took place at St Chad's Cathedral, Birmingham according to the rites of the Catholic Church and then afterwards at the Parish Church, Edgbaston. The report goes on to say that Charlotte was the second daughter of George Towell of Uppingham, late Lieutenant and Adjutant of the 3d (sic) Regiment of Dragoon Guards. No details for Edward other than 'Edward Corser Esq, of Park Place, Bristol Road'
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Another article, this time from Stamford Mercury, 4 September 1846.
OAKHAM UNION - ONE POUND REWARD.
ABSCONDED, leaving his Wife and Family chargeable to the Parish of Exton, in this Union, HENRY TOWELL, aged about 40, a Labourer, about 5ft 8in high, well proportioned, very plausable tongue, and has been accustomed to stone quarry work. Whoever will give such information as shall cause the above-named Henry Towell to be apprehended, shall receive One Pound Reward. By order, H HOUGH, Clerk to the Union, Oakham, August 29 1846.
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Just following through on Henry Towell, it seems that by 1871 he is in the Asylum:
Henry Towell, Patient, 66, Married, Excavator born Oakham, Rutland. Lunatic.
Also possibly worth mentioning, there is a bastardy record in 1827 for Ann Towell of Oakham, & under the same reference a Bastardy Examination for Thomas Henton, Melton Mowbray. An Ann Towell married Henry Camp at Oakham in 1828, although I haven't traced them after this.
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Henry Towel married Elizabeth Valence widow 16 May 1832 age 31 and 33 from Barrow parents
John Towel farmer and Samuel Stechley farmer at barrow
ciderdrinker
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There is a transcription error with the marriage of Henry Towel. It was actually in 1838. Sarah Towell was a witness. Henry and Sarah both signed their names as Towell.
Henry might be the son of John Towell and Ann Crofts who were married at Tickencote on 27th February 1806. Henry was baptised there on 8th February 1807.
David
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Henry is missing from the 1851-61 censuses, although Elizabeth is at Barrow upon Soar.
Also, I can't see him in 1881.
Leicester Chronicle 3rd February 1883
Towell - On the 25th ult., at the County Asylum, Mr Henry Towell, aged 78.
David
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1881 - Henry Towell, Patient, 76 widower born Tickencote, Rutland. Railway Labourer
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It looks like Henry was admitted to the Asylum more than once:
Admitted 25 Feb 1860. Discharged 14 Jun 186?
Admitted 23 Jan 1865. Discharged 18 Apr 1866
Admitted 20 Jul 1869. Discharged (Deceased) 25 Jan 1883
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I see Henry in 1881 now. The second half of his age is feint and transcribed as 71.
His father john was buried in Barrow on 9th July 1837, age 56, so probably baptised in Exton on 26th November 1780, son of Robert and Frances.
I can't find anything to link this Henry to Charlotte. On the marriage register, she gave her father's occupation as Harness Maker and Mary Ann Towell was a witness.
David
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Also possibly worth mentioning, there is a bastardy record in 1827 for Ann Towell of Oakham, & under the same reference a Bastardy Examination for Thomas Henton, Melton Mowbray. An Ann Towell married Henry Camp at Oakham in 1828, although I haven't traced them after this.
On the marriage register, she gave her father's occupation as Harness Maker and Mary Ann Towell was a witness.
I may have found Henry Camp living in Mansfield, Nottingham in 1841. Age 36, not born in County, Occupation - Harness Maker.
Perhaps Charlotte used her step-father's forename & occupation on her marriage certificate - it wouldn't be the first time anyone did that.
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That is very possible as you say Jomot.
FreeBMD has a marriage post it
On 22 Aug 1841 at Mansfield St Peter
Henry CAMP married Ann LYNAM
Henry is shown on the GRO index in Vol 15 Page 678 and Ann on 6_8. I believe 678 is correct
Fits with 1851 Census
Henry Camp 44 Saddler
Ann Camp, 41
Alfred Camp, 22
Marian Lynam, 17
Elizabeth Lynam, 10
Sarah Camp, 8
Lucy Camp, 6
Harriet Camp, 4
1841 we have;
Henry Camp, 36, Harness M
Alfred Camp, 11
Elizabeth Camp, 9
Thomas Camp, 7
Anne Parson, 46
GRO index has a possible Death Reg;
CAMP, ANN, age 36****
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 431
Unfortunately I cant find Baptism with my resources for Alfred/Elizabeth/Thomas and as they were born before 1837 there is no GRO Birth Reg to check their Mothers maiden name!
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ANN Towell christened 8 May 1804, Oakham, Rutland to THOMAS/MARY
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There is a birth registered for a William Camp in Basford, Notts, mmn Towle, Q3 1840 just before the death for Ann Camp in Q4.
David
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Right ... this gives me lots to think about.
So, the Towell/Corser marriage looks good for the real Charlotte Towell. It looks as though they went to Australia in the end.
The father of my Charlotte Towell, who may be the illegitimate daughter of Ann Towell and Thomas Henton could be Henry, who was in and out of the asylum, or possibly another Henry entirely who died two years before the patient. Alternatively, she could have been asked her father's name and simply said 'Henry', omitting to say she was giving the details of her stepfather Henry Camp.
My Charlotte Towell wrote a beautiful copperplate hand. Where would she have learnt that?
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I think this is the most likely;
Charlotte Towell, the illegitimate daughter of Ann Towell and Thomas Henton;
And she could have been asked her father's name and simply said 'Henry', omitting to say she was giving the details of her stepfather Henry Camp.
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I think I have found the answer, as Jomot suggested:-
Charlotte Hinton
Baptism date: 20 Apr 1827
Place: Oakham
Father Thomas Hinton
Mother: Ann Towell
Looking at the possibilities of Mary Ann Towell, who witnessed the marriage of Charlotte, the only person who appears to fit was the wife of William Towell, a Felmonger of Oakham. She only appears as Mary A on the 1871 census, otherwise just Mary.
William would seem to be the son of Thomas and Mary, the same parents as Ann in 1804.
David
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Thomas Henton, son of Thomas and Ann was baptised at Melton Mowbray on 6th February 1807.
A Thomas Henton of Melton Mowbray married Ann Tyler of Pickwell on 21st December, 1826, at Pickwell.
Ann Tyler, daughter of Robert and Ann, was baptised at Pickwell on 4th February 1801.
Ann Henton, born 1801, was buried at Knossington on 22nd September 1831.
David
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Well done David :)
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If the OP wants to obtain the 1827 Bastardy documents from Leicester Archives, the reference is 2694/798.
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Good find with the baptism David.
For reference, it was at Bar Gates Independent Meeting House, Oakham and her date of birth was 27 Feb 1827. Charlotte is recorded as 'Charlotte Hinton daughter of Thomas Hinton and Ann Towell his wife'.
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Credit should really be to you, Jomot. It was your lead that helped me to find it.
There is a reference to the grave of Ann Henton in Knossington, which is four miles from Oakham, although her age is incorrect. It mentions Thomas but it may just mean that he was her husband.
http://www.gravestonephotos.com/search/findfamily.php?name=Henton&scrwidth=2400
Leicester Journal 23 September 1831:
The same day(Monday the 19th), aged 30, deeply lamented by all who knew her, Ann, the wife of Mr. Thomas Henton, of Knossington, in this county.
Leicester Journal 19 December 1828:
To be disposed of,...
All the stock, Fixtures, and Good-will in the Trade of Mr. Thomas Henton, Linen and Woolen Draper, Hatter, Hosier, &c. Market Place, Melton Mowbray.
I can find no further reference to Thomas.
David
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Stamford Mercury 08 January 1836
On the 29th Ult., at Garthorpe, Leicestershire, in the prime of life, Mr Thos. Henton, late of Knossington.
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The marriage licence for Thomas Henton who married Ann Tyler states that he was a Draper of Melton Mowbray, aged 29.
There is a will of a Thomas Henton, a Draper of Melton Mowbray in 1796. His wife was Milliscent. He also mentioned brothers, William and Henry of Ragdale.
Thomas Henton, transcribed as Kenton, married Milliscent Deverill in Saxelby on 1st June 1780.
When Milliscent died in 1813, she only named her siblings in her will.
I can't see a baptism that links the two Thomases. The only one that fits by date is at Saxby on 3rd April 1797, son of George and Mary.
Thomas Henton of Garthorpe was buried in Saxby on 21st December 1835 age 39.
David
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Oh wow!
I just popped in to have a quick look at this thread on my way to spend some time trying to follow this through, but it looks as if you are way ahead of me.
Thank you so much. Lots to look at and consider. I'll certainly be after a copy of the bastardy bond.
Interestingly, I've been up to Melton Mowbray a couple of times recently with my DH when he has been working there. I hadn't expected to find any connection.
Thanks again.
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A notice in The Leicester Journal in 1813 stated that Mrs. Melecint (sic) Henton was a draper of Melton Mowbray.
1828 Thomas Henton of Melton Mowbray, draper, signed over his estates and effects to William Mann of Wymondham and Samuel Henton of Saxby. Samuel Henton was also the son of George Henton.
The burial of Thomas Henton in 1795 gives a lot of detail. His parents were George and Mary (?) of Ragdale and he died of consumption aged 42. He died on 26th June and was buried on 29th June. It gives the location of his grave as the south side of the nave and so there might be a memorial.
Note that the baptism record gave his parents as George and JANE, baptised on 4th May 1753 in Ragdale.
George Henton, the probable father of Thomas of Knossington, was buried in Saxby on 7th June 1825, born 1758. The only George baptised in that year was the son of George and Mary of Twyford.
He married As George Henton Jnr. to Mary Wright in Thorp Satchville on 15th January 1784. The documents state that he was a grazier and were co-signed by William Henton of Ragdale, mentioned as a brother of Thomas Henton who died in Melton in 1795, and Mary was from Stapleford.
George was baptised in Twyford on 22nd October 1758, also son of George and Mary. He was probably baptised in Ragdale on 5th November 1733, son of George and Jane, which makes him a brother of Thomas the draper, who died in 1795.
George Henton of Ragdale married Mary Haines in Kirby Bellars on 27th December 1757.
I am not related to the Towells but one of my relatives, Frederick Hasdell, married Esther/Hester Ann Towell, the daughter of Edward Towell, the son of James Towell, the son of Thomas Towell and Ann Seaton. James and Edward were baptised at the same Independent church in Oakham as Ann Towell, the mother of Charlotte.
David