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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: mikegunnill on Thursday 30 November 17 13:50 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for a relation of Charles William Brooker, bJuly 6th 1880 & d March 1968. His last known address, just before his death was Gordon Road, Strood.
He came from Ashford, where his wife, Florence Ellen Brooker nee Brunger died in 1913. He gave his occupation as Motor Driver and widowed in the 1939 register.
Hit a research brick wall, glad for some help please.
Thank you
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Have you used the new GRO Birth Index to look for possible children of the couple?
A quick search shows a Florence Eva Brooker (mother Brunger) born in 1907 in West Ashford registration district.
You could research Florence or any other children.
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Thanks for your reply. I have tried the two children but it lead to nothing! I am trying this route again, incase I missed something.
Thx
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Did Charles have any brothers or sisters? Have you followed them?
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Did Charles have any brothers or sisters? Have you followed them?
I have found William 1883 and Thomas 1887. Again I have been this route, I get to 1911 then they disappear.
Thx
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Have you check CWGC for WW1 deaths or emigration records?
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Have you check CWGC for WW1 deaths or emigration records?
No I haven't done that! Thx again
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I've found a few of my 'disappeared without trace" lost in WW1. :'(
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Hi,
Not sure if you have access to Facebook, but there is a very active group there for Ashford https://www.facebook.com/groups/ashfordkentrememberingthewayitoncewas/ and you may well find someone who remembers the family.
C-A
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Hi,
Not sure if you have access to Facebook, but there is a very active group there for Ashford https://www.facebook.com/groups/ashfordkentrememberingthewayitoncewas/ and you may well find someone who remembers the family.
C-A
Hello:
I will try this. After his wife died in 1913, he moved to Strood in Kent. I found him on the 1939 register.
Thx
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I will try this. After his wife died in 1913, he moved to Strood in Kent. I found him on the 1939 register./
There are several people on there with the name Brooker, so you never know! In any case there are some old photos of Apsley Street where he lived in 1911.
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Do you mean that you could find no marriage nor death for Florence Eva, or too many to decide which one was her?
Have you got her exact date of birth?
Possibly married Herbert J Payne in 1936 and died in 1996?
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Do you mean that you could find no marriage nor death for Florence Eva, or too many to decide which one was her?
Have you got her exact date of birth?
Possibly married Herbert J Payne in 1936 and died in 1996?
Hello:
Thank you for your reply. I couldn't find a marriage or a death for Eva Brooker, then marriage. Although born 1908, Florence Eva Brunger she never used Florence. Grateful for the marriage and the name Herbert Payne and death date. All of this I couldn't find on Ancestry. Could I ask if they had children please??
I am grateful for this, it was driving me mad!
Thx Mike
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There are several possible marriages for Florence E Brooker, but you said that her Father had moved to Strood, so the marriage in Strood stood out as a distinct possibility, and shows on freebmd as well as Ancestry.
Marriages Jun 1936
Florence E Brooker Strood
Herbert J Payne Strood
There are other Payne/Brooker marriages throughout the country, and Payne/Brooker children, but not obvious if any are Florence's.
This death is from Ancestry
Florence Eva Payne born 27th September 1907 died May 1996 in maidstone, Kent.
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There are several possible marriages for Florence E Brooker, but you said that her Father had moved to Strood, so the marriage in Strood stood out as a distinct possibility, and shows on freebmd as well as Ancestry.
Marriages Jun 1936
Florence E Brooker Strood
Herbert J Payne Strood
There are no references to her using the name Florence Eva Brooker, from birth or the 1911 c. Everything is recorded as Eva Brooker. Having said that on CW Brooker's (her father) death certificate (1968) she is listed as his daughter, E Payne of Frindsbury.
Her mothers name was Florence Ellen Brunger, so she may have adopted the name from her. I hope this makes sense?
I think I need to find if Mrs Payne from Frindsbury had any children. There is reference to a Payne family member, in 2014 talking to the local newspaper from that area of Frindsbury. He is listed as Kevin Payne - which I haven't been able to trace yet.
Thx again
Mike
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This is her birth, so I assumed that for marriage and death that was what she would use.
Births December quarter 1907
Florence Eva Brooker W. Ashford
She may have used Eva, do you know her exact date of birth to see if that death is correct?
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This is her birth, so I assumed that for marriage and death that was what she would use.
Births December quarter 1907
Florence Eva Brooker W. Ashford
She may have used Eva, do you know her exact date of birth to see if that death is correct?
I only have October of 1907 West Ashford.
Thx
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There is a death of a Herbert James Payne in Chatham in 1972,and probate gives an address of 11 Barks Road, Frindsbury.
Worth getting the will?
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There is a death of a Herbert James Payne in Chatham in 1972,and probate gives an address of 11 Barks Road, Frindsbury.
Worth getting the will?
I assume 11 Banks Road, Frindsbury? That is the address in 1968 on her fathers death certificate.
Thx
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There is a death of a Herbert James Payne in Chatham in 1972,and probate gives an address of 11 Barks Road, Frindsbury.
Worth getting the will?
I assume 11 Banks Road, Frindsbury? That is the address in 1968 on her fathers death certificate.
FURTHER:
I am concerned I am not getting this info myself via Ancestry. Am I doing something wrong or just using one source?
Final question tonight, how do get the Will for Herbert James Payne?
Kind Regards
Mike
Thx
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This death is from Ancestry
Florence Eva Payne born 27th September 1907 died May 1996 in maidstone, Kent.
Looks like there is a grant and will for this one on gov.uk site. Herbert is probate only.
If you are looking in the 1939 register try 'Dayne' for surname.
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This death is from Ancestry
Florence Eva Payne born 27th September 1907 died May 1996 in maidstone, Kent.
Looks like there is a grant and will for this one on gov.uk site. Herbert is probate only.
If you are looking in the 1939 register try 'Dayne' for surname.
I have ordered the WILL for Eva Payne as she died last. Many thanks for your help. I have much to learn at this game!!!!!